This about the second chest...I played earlier with a group and when I told them they all ignored me. So once you beat the Ogres at the bridge, everyone makes the mad dash for the second chest. People believe that there is a timer from the ogre death or first shriker, but what if there isn't. There is a Dredged Cursed Thrall that comes out, and once he dies the door begins to close. Earlier today, I was with a group told them and was ignored. We proceeded to enter the hallway and kill the shrikers. Once we made it to the end of the hallway the thrall was there and the door was not closing. The thrall then rounded the corner, and I said "hey look, there's the thrall" it exploded and the door started closing. The crazy part is the entire team was at the end of the hallway and once that thrall exploded we narrowly made it. Basically, I'm wondering if I'm the only person here that realizes that there is no timer from the beginning...instead the timer has to do with the thrall. It's like the myth with the sprit bloom chest. Edit: well I suppose I need video proof of some sort to test this [b]theory[/b] out since a few people just don't believe me