The video above is from a clash run on Twilight Gap. Below are a couple of other play test maps with my Thorn and Red Death after the patch. I can't really tell a difference with Hand Cannons. There are a couple of initial shots that seem to go right through people... might be the initial accuracy thing, but I think they are fine overall. Red Death is just awesome. I've heard good things about some other legendary pulse rifles... I have a couple of them. Anxious to level them up and try them out. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl5SoEYrc2Y]Red Death - Burning Shrine - Clash[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwOUPNzq2SY]Thorn - Firebase Delphi - Clash[/url] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq3Pju2EgDE]Thorn - Shores of Time - Skirmish (31-0)[/url] The skirmish map has some really not-good competition (not trying to knock the guys in the video, just sayin'). I just started grabbing footage of gameplay - I'll try to get some more with better competition.