In pvp, particularly in control, the striker subclass is the cheapest subclass. They have lightning grenades, shoulder charge, and the notorious fist of havoc. The aftershocks are quite redicoulus from both nades and the super, and shoulder charge is the most OP thing in the game. Like really, there is no counter, I know because I use it, it's hilarious.
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Shotguns stop shoulder charges, aftershock last less than 30 seconds, havoc is about as powerful and nova bomb, lightning grenades are easy to dodge.
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Edited by ChumGut: 2/1/2015 5:43:45 PMKeep thinking that
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What about warlocks---- they are on that same lvl as titans with there solar grenades or vortex grenades that take up the whole control point--- PLus sinsinger with Heart of praxic fire + 2 grenades = more of a hassle then a strikers FOH
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Yeah, IF they have hopf, solar grenades and vortex grenades don't deal damage near as suddenly and are about 10x more noticable.
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Throwing knife lol
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No counter for a shoulder charge? You've never heard of a Shotgun?
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He also hasnt seen a fusion rifle some how either, people just charge that thing when they see you on their radar coming around a corner, and there is nothing your shoulder charge can do.
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He's clearly being ignorant or he just haven't played enough PvP.
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Ok buddy.
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Fist of Panic*
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shot gun dose the trick pretty good if u can time it right
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Haha no it doesn't. There is no hope for the enemy.
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Yea I've killed bladedancers with a shoty
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Whatever you say
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Funny, I get countered by fusion rifles, shotguns and the Warlocks retarded long range melee (obviously they weaken me first then finish off with melee). I'd also argue Lightning grenades are one of the most skill-heavy grenades of the lot, especially compared to all sticky grenades (aside from tripmine) and their ridiculous auto-aim/tracking. And I still don't understand why FoH is so hated when Nova Bomb does EVERYTHING FoH does (aside from shockwave) and more.
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[quote]Funny, I get countered by fusion rifles, shotguns and the Warlocks retarded long range melee (obviously they weaken me first then finish off with melee). I'd also argue Lightning grenades are one of the most skill-heavy grenades of the lot, especially compared to all sticky grenades (aside from tripmine) and their ridiculous auto-aim/tracking. And I still don't understand why FoH is so hated when Nova Bomb does EVERYTHING FoH does (aside from shockwave) and more.[/quote] 1. It's funny because somehow you are bad at using it, titan and hunter melee lunges forward, same distance is covered 2. Lightning grenades are cheaper than ramen noodles 3. Fist of panic has a much larger blast radius compared to nova bomb
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1.Titan shoulder charge and Warlock melee abilities are both 6 meters. However the shoulder charge actually needs to MOVE 6 meters to hit, Warlocks just need to stay where they are and wave their hand (and in this scenario it usually ends up with a melee trade, not an outright win for the Warlock). 2. Lightning grenades are strong, but are awkward to use: Oh look an enemy, let's not shoot him and scan the environment for a nearby wall that is perpendicular to the enemy, then throw a grenade at said wall while compensating for gravity and then cross my fingers the grenade actually explodes towards the enemy and didn't spaz out on the terrain and point directly up/down/horizontal to the wall I was aiming for. Sticky grenade: Shoot the enemy, maybe press the grenade button and have the homing do the rest. 3. Maybe, but shatter makes it bigger, Annihilate makes it (and grenades) bigger, Some of my Warlock friends swear that Vortex increases blast radius. And lets not mention that blast radius isn't as important considering you can make it fricken TRACK the enemies. And I'm not gonna believe anything you say about Titans given AT BEST you have killed 91 guardians with shoulder charge and 14 guardians with lightning grenades. (you have killed 91 guardians with ALL melees combined as Titan and killed 14 guardians with ALL grenades combined as Titan). I was going to be mean and accuse you of being a blink-shotgunner, however you don't have blink equipped (you are a Voidwalker tho) and have killed 3 TIMES as many guardians with a shotgun as your next best weapon. So I'm right and I'm wrong.
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Shotguns are the best weapon so obviously I am gonna use a shotgun, idc what others say, in fact that stat makes me laugh a litte because shotguns are really cheap. I have only just started to use my titan, and it feels a lot easier to use than any other class. And idk why you are comparing shoulder charge to warlock melee, warlock melee is only 1 hit while in radiance. Stickies can get you 1 kill and I find them unreliable, lightning grenades however, can stop a whole team from capturing a zone. I respect you for not being a complete elitist jerk and bringing kd into this, since yours is most likely better than mine considering most people that argue with me about subclasses have better kds than me.
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I knee'd a hunter while doing the shoulder dash in PVP. Striker subclass is definitely sick in PVP (esp. if you like to melee).
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Edited by IrishTheSavage: 1/27/2015 7:03:32 PMwhen i control I'm mostly a Defender.. unless the other team is crap and i can run around and kill them without having to worry about B
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Warlocks > Hunter > Titan
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I'd second that