So yesterday I did some testing with the Lash that I received from IB 4 and found some strange data: I will quote the post here: [quote]So I ran some tests and the results were sobering. All tests were run with a 31 Gunslinger on 30 Level Cabal regular (non-ultra) cabal enemies. All 3 tested Wepaons are fully upgraded to 331 Attack all damage is crit-damage Timur`s Lash does 1362 damage with the perks I have on it (SendIt, Outlaw, FEeding Frenzy); Hawkmoon does 1354 damage with no buffed bullets and 1805 (1 stack) and 2405 (2 stack) Thorn does 1210 damage + (4x98 piercing) = 1602 It seems that Chain of Woe and Armor that increases reload stack with Outlaw/Feeding Frenzy and Chain of Woe, the reoload on the Lash is insane, but I have no recording equipment to actually measure the frames. A bummer is that "Armor piercing" absolutely does nothing for the wepon, you can`t even penetrate corrugated sheet with it. And despite showing an increase on the Impact stats, when chosen, the damage output is identical to the damage that results if you chose another perk. My conclusion is that the disadvantages of the Lash (lower firerate, smaller mag, less dmagae output even with full reload perks) are a draw with the advantage that you free an exotic slot up. It boils down to preferences imo. If the Armor-piercing would work it would be a great choice for PvP but as it stands I will most likely use it for PvE only.[/quote] The strange thing is that when you compare the stats that the compare option gives you and get the numerical data from DestinyDB the Impacts are as follows: Timur`s Lash = 94 Hawkmoon = 81 Thorn = 68 see how that does not fit into the damage output? The 331 Lash does only meager 8 Damage points more than the Hawkmoon but the 331 Hawkmoon does 144 more Damage points than the (piercing-subtracted) 331 Thorn. But the numerical Impact differnces between the three are always 13 points. Also Armor piercing that visibly enhances the Impact does absolutely nothing on the weapon. My guess is: The 331 Lash is only a 300, with armor piercing not working on it. Could anyone who has a 300 Lash test how much damage it does. Maybe other IB weapons are also affected. [b]TLDR; The 331 Timur`s Lash that a lot of us grinded for is bugged, probably only a 300 version.[/b] Edit 1: So the Lash`s damage seems to be all over the place. I tested it today against Raid-Thralls/Acolytes (L30) with the same Gunslinger Hunter and suddenly it did [b]1905 [/b]damage per Bullet. Same weapon, similar enemies. Why it should do Bonusdamage against Hive and Malusdamage against Cabal is a Mystery to me. Will keep testing. Maybe someone has an explanation?