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Edited by Sgt Cabose: 11/7/2014 4:49:37 PM
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Runners vs Completionists

Runner

2550

Completionist

1702

Idler

85

Q: When it comes to strikes, you're a _______. But I'm "both". There is no option for me! [spoiler]Assume you have all the time in the world and you're soloing if you're "in the middle or both." This will help you identify what you really PREFER. Certainly, when faced with a time crunch but really want to play, we'll change out tactics from our true desires. However, with unlimited time, we'd be more likely to do what we WANT. Edit: there is no "Both" option. I want you to pick a side and defend it. Certainly there are a ton of us (myself included) that play to the rest of the group. But base your decision on soloing. Don't take the middle ground. That's too easy :P [/spoiler] Why there is no RIGHT answer: [spoiler]I'd recommend the book [u]Switch[/u] by Chip and Dan Heath. Arguing logic doesn't work. You have to motivate the emotional side of an individual to make it really work (in conjunction with logic). Your logic is sound, but you haven't targeted the [b][i][u]reason[/u][/i][/b] people walk/shoot (completionist) every strike. Some people are just plain having fun. If you could [b][i][u]show[/u][/i][/b] someone how much more [i]fun[/i] it is to run vice walk, you'd swing the community. Unfortunately, that must be felt and experienced. The written word (here) will most likely only apply to logic (unless you're an incredible writer). Logic is just not a strong enough element to do it alone.[/spoiler] Concerning the term: "Efficient" and why it's not an option on my poll. [spoiler]Most runners are running because of [i]time[/i] efficiency. That's probably the right title depending on your operational definition of efficient. One size does not fit all here. "Efficient" is defined by the measurement: Efficient completionists aren't worried about time, but kills instead... Not skipping any enemies. 100% encountered enemies die at their hands. Efficient runners are looking for personal records on strike TIME completion. "Gotta shave 30 seconds off. Skip the stupid colossus and just run by it." It's all in the eye of the beholder. Use this weeks Weekly Heroic as an example. After you activate the console in the public area by the interceptors, do you: A) Fight every enemy in the first big interior chamber and then continue on, also killing every enemy in front of the bosses siege tank (public area)? Efficient mob killer = completionist. Or B) Run and jump past those guys to get to the lieutenant fight (darkness zone), then run and jump to boss area? Efficient TIME completion = runner. Certainly there are those that want to split hairs and kill stuff while they're running through, but killing level 28 cabal majors and ultras takes some freaking time. If you're stopping to down all those dudes you're a completionists.[/spoiler] THIS POLL IS TO INCREASE AWARENESS This is the problem: People fall into 2 real categories. You either want the end of strike rewards only and time is of the essence, or you want to take the scenic route and kill everything on the way. Neither of these practices is bad!!!! Your brain and play style dictate what group you fall into. This does not mean the other group is [b][i][u]wrong[/u][/i][/b]! They're just different. Understand this and stop taking it personally. [spoiler]Idling is straight garbage. I don't care about the no-death strike bounties. Participate or get reported. Standing around farming materials and trash mobs also counts as idling no matter how you try to explain it.[/spoiler] So, which group to you fall into? I want this post to stick so everyone understands that there are 2 different schools of thought here and you should try to understand the majority. If 2 people sparrow off, they're runners. If you're a completionist, just quit, or speed ahead, help, and try your luck with a different group. If you sparrow up and the others walk towards the first mob, they obviously want to kill stuff. Quit, or hop off the sparrow and help. Of course no one is holding a gun to your head to be a team player, but team playing requires a "majority rules" mentality. Being the only runner makes you look like a jack ass. Sure, you soloed the boss. But your other 2 "team" members were left behind. It's not good etiquette. I say follow the crowd vice throwing a tantrum that someone isn't playing "your" way. Especially if you're the only one that wants to do it that way. Check left. Check right. Play as a team, OR DONT USE RANDOM MATCHMAKING AND GET MAD WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG! I'm a runner. Ran Sepkis Prime 25 times for Bad Juju, but slowed down when my team mates wanted to. Cheers guys. I did this in fun, but I hope it sticks. There are way too many hate threads about this.

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  • I have no issues with both. Depends on the group.

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  • I respect OP when he says that there is no right or wrong in being a runner or completionist, but I have to say I slightly disagree, and am personally annoyed by those turd blossoms, aka "runners", whose actions always end up affecting MY game. For example, on the Mars strike. As soon as we spawn, there is always some ass hole who decides to just sparrow away into the complex to the first door, not even bothering to go into the building to deploy the ghost so that the door will open when they get to the first checkpoint. This happens to me 90% of the time, and it's gotten to the point where, if I go into a game where the other two players just make a dash for the door, ASSUMING that I will be the one to open it for them by staying behind, I just put my troll hat on and kill enemies in the surrounding area until they either depart from the strike or they bring their happy asses back to the building and deploy their ghost. I REALLY have a problem with these so-called "runners". Not to mention, once that first door is open they completely skip that entire section and just move on to the area where you have to kill the three guards/tank. I understand that everyone plays the game differently, so I can respect OP when he says 'there is no right or wrong answer, but you can bet that there's gonna be a problem whenever that runner that goes off and does his own thing gets killed in a restricted respawn zone (which happens way too often), and it pulls me out of what I'm doing, which is killing everything that the 'runners' decided to skip and spawns me in that respawn restricted zone. At that point, being a runner is absolutely wrong if you can't complete the checkpoint without being killed. That affects MY style of being a completionist, and I don't think that I'm going to change the way I play because some jackoffs decide they want to get the end game rewards as quick as possible. See what I mean? Being a completionist doesn't hurt anyone, but being a runner skipping ahead and being the only one to die in a RR zone does. Therefore, all you runners can suck it. Unless you can do your thing without dying, in which case I don't give a crap what you do. The real problem is that I can't solo a Tiger strike. Or better yet, adjust the matchmaking so that I only get completionists such as my self.

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    • Efficiency. Easiest and quickest way to earn engrams in the Strike Playlist is to run through it as fast as possible.

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    • Not sure what category I go in I just go ham kill everything try not to die and finish it.

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    • If the other two shoot everything, I do too. If me and the other dude run off, you should try to keep up. This is the way of our people.

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    • Edited by NathanW18: 11/7/2014 4:22:06 AM
      Both. Depending on bounties. The vast majority of the time, I will leave the low level mobs and go straight to the restricted area. I will never run through a restricted area, without killing the enemies. If people don't like how someone else is playing in the lobby, they should leave. The person that is playing in the opposite way should not feel like they have to leave.

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    • This poll is ridiculous.. by your wording a person running through a strike isn't a completionist, but in fact the fastest way to complete 100% of the game is to run through pretty much everything since all the environments and enemies are recycled...

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    • I run through the first low leveled mob, then I still fly through all the other mobs until the boss. It helps being a level 30.

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    • Both. And there is a both. Cause you only complete shit the first 1000 times. The other 9000 you have to run through.

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    • Must.kill.everything. everything. Everything EVERYTHING. EVERYONE. YOU. THEM.YOU AGAIN.KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • im usually a runner but if im leveling a gun or armor i will take alil longer to kill stuff but ill do it quick so i dont get left behind

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    • What category is skipping all of the adds and killing the boss in 5 minutes?

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      • Without runners we can never get through the maze.

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      • I'm a runner. If I could solo lv24 strikes, I would. I like trying to beat strikes as fast as possible, to see how good I can be. It's fine if others take their time, but those that troll really have too much time on their hands and are typically looking for any reason to do so. If I die, I can revive myself in 30 seconds. If you bring dumb people into nightfalls or heroic strikes, then that's your own fault.

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      • I actually enjoy the game. I like getting into little firefights, plowing through low level enemies, and collecting ammo. I've gotten most of my legendary engrams from fighting such enemies. Why would I skip them?

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      • Its simple for me. I kill all mobs appropriate level of the strike quickly and efficiently. What's the point in standing around after you kill a mob. Quick search for ammo and move on. I get most of my items from drops. If its green and I see it I pick it up. If I missed it oh well. If I see a blue I get it. If not it gets mailed to me. There is a way to clear everything and still move quickly. The strikes aren't hard to memorize and the mobs don't switch it up on you. In the end efficiency is in the eye of each of us as an individual. I'm not there to dixk around but I'm also there to maximize my loot output

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      • im a completetionest. i will kill anything and all things in order to get engrams. i don't care about running to kill the boss anymore. i care about getting engrams and upgrading my gear. the only way to get engrams is to kill everything in your path and staying alive as long as possible. :P

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        • Edited by EtherMagz: 11/6/2014 6:05:55 PM
          I am a speedy completionist only for the sole purpose of getting engrams. Lately, I have been getting purple drops but always get blue. Why am I telling you this? Well, because how else would you upgrade your cryptarch level? So yeah I destroy anything that is within my path just to get drops and its guaranteed that I always get blue drops. That is more than enough to take it to that ungrateful blue baster, Master Rahool in hopes of getting some cool stuff from his packages.

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        • What if I'm a runner , but kill everything that I run past? I like to get it done Quick but I seriously destroy everything that's in the path that way my friends have an easy way in

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          • Runner. Kill only what is needed. Quickest way when you farm engrams from tiger strikes.

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          • Soz need a both option

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          • I self identify as a completionits on a timeline

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            • I kill only which is that of the level strike I'm playing on, if on cosmodrome strike I skip the low levels in the beginning ect.

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              • Completionist hahahaha did really laugh because of that poll

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              • Edited by Silent: 11/6/2014 6:51:39 AM
                I idle for like 2 or less minutes to gather the chests and materials in the immediate area. Then I go straight to completionist.

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                • I stopped killing everything in the strike when i beat each one more that 10 times... At that point it's just like "ugh, let's just get this over with"

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