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Edited by BNGHelp4: 10/26/2014 11:32:51 PM
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I don't understand how destiny is bad

Now, ever since I saw the first gameplay trailer of this game, I wanted it and so did everyone else. With an achievement of over 180 awards and nominations everybody thought this game was the best ever But sadly when it came out everybody hated it for a few reasons: 1. The story is bad: now I do agree with this a bit as it is very unclear what is going on in most parts of the game, but there are many mysteries and things that it will follow up on in the updates that will continue and follow up the events that have already happened. 2. Bad level design: To me, level design doesn't matter unless I'm having fun but on a more professional side of things, I also have to agree that the level design is quite lazy as there are literally three things a lev may be either: go kill a boss, go get an item or protect your ghost while he gains info. But later on as the game progresses the strikes and some side missions become quite interesting, in the vault of glass raid you have to have six people to protect four (I think) pads to open it, so yer. 3. Random loot drops: now this one I do find very annoying as I am level 25 and I have no legendary stuff at all and both of my friends are fully armored with that stuff and I still have nothing. Another thing is that a lot of people are annoyed about what they get from raids (that being not very good stuff) but I would not really know because I have never competed one. Also another thing is at the end of the crucible there is the rewards menu, now this is insane because it does not make sense at all, all the rewards are also random and so it can be really annoying when you feel as if you did really well in that match only to find out you got nothing for it, I have also been in a game where no one got anything apart from the bottom person who got an exotic shotgun! Apart from that I don't see anything wrong with the game at all as the graphics and artwork are incredible as well as the audio. The gameplay and controls are very smooth as they are mixture between call of duty and halo. There are loads of weapons and armor to customize and make your character look awsome. The sky boxes on all planets are stunning as well as the actual lay out and setting to each of them like earth is rusted wasteland and the moon well... The moon and Venus is a jungle and mars is a desert as well as the different enemies each with their own weaknesses and strengths. The multiplayer (pvp) is amazing (and that is coming from a guy who gets very frustrated in pvp) as I love the different abilities and vehicles (though there could be more) that are on offer. Of course there are a few things that could tweak to make it better like the random rewards and possibly more vehicle maps as there are only two at the moment. I find the entire game a very satisfying way of gaming fun especially when you are playing with a friend or a clan to help you in your adventures. (WARNING: reference alert!) This game is so fun it even shout "ADVENTURE TIME!" Whenever we fly off to a new planet. I really love this game and am really disappointed how badly people are treating it like this you tuber called angry joe who is a massive d**k who obviously only plays games to judge them and not to have fun like you are meant to. I would highly recommend this game to everyone who has enjoyed either Call of Duty, Halo, Skyrim and even some who likes InFamous. I would rate this game a solid 9.0/10.0 I hope everyone will enjoy destiny and will keep playing.

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  • It's not bad. It's got a lot of room to grow and a lot to flesh out level/story wise, but what's here is still fun.

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  • I agree, there are some things that are missing and this game has amazing potential to really live up to the hype but it's still good fun jumping in, flying off and deciding what you want to do.

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    • Edited by xtbn: 10/27/2014 8:53:03 AM
      [quote] 1. The story is bad: now I do agree with this a bit as it is very unclear what is going on in most parts of the game, but there are many mysteries and things that it will follow up on in the updates that will continue and follow up the events that have already happened.[/quote] Correction: there are [b]too many[/b] mysteries in the game. I'm not expecting a complete development to the plot here. A first game should introduce you to the plot of the game. I said this before and I'll say it again, the queen and her brother don't have names!!! That alone should tell you how little effort went in to introducing you to this world. I could tell you of this games lack of character development. I could tell you about how the game does nothing to make you feel like you have to protect the city... I could tell you more of the huge shortcomings of this game...sadly I don't have time to explain further why I don't have tine to explain further. And I have more points to adress. [quote] 2. Bad level design: To me, level design doesn't matter unless I'm having fun but on a more professional side of things, I also have to agree that the level design is quite lazy as there are literally three things a lev may be either: go kill a boss, go get an item or protect your ghost while he gains info. But later on as the game progresses the strikes and some side missions become quite interesting, in the vault of glass raid you have to have six people to protect four (I think) pads to open it, so yer.[/quote] VOG is the [u]only [/u]mission with original level design. Everything else is just go to point A and defend dinklebot for 3 waves. Go to point B and repeat. Fight bullet sponge boss. Really? This isn't just lazy, it borders on insulting. [quote] 3. Random loot drops: now this one I do find very annoying as I am level 25 and I have no legendary stuff at all and both of my friends are fully armored with that stuff and I still have nothing. Another thing is that a lot of people are annoyed about what they get from raids (that being not very good stuff) but I would not really know because I have never competed one. Also another thing is at the end of the crucible there is the rewards menu, now this is insane because it does not make sense at all, all the rewards are also random and so it can be really annoying when you feel as if you did really well in that match only to find out you got nothing for it, I have also been in a game where no one got anything apart from the bottom person who got an exotic shotgun! Apart from that I don't see anything wrong with the game at all as the graphics and artwork are incredible as well as the audio. [/quote] The problem doesn't really on how many flaws the game has. Its with how big and impossible to overlook they are. Look at your post. You started every point pretty much with " I agree but" and then proceded to make an excuse for the game. [quote] The gameplay and controls are very smooth as they are mixture between call of duty and halo. [/quote] To my knowledge, no one has ever argued this point. This is irrelevant. This level of polish is expected from FPS' nowadays. Not impressed here. [quote]There are loads of weapons and armor to customize and make your character look awsome. [/quote] I'm sorry but I don't see the customization you speak off anywhere in the game. The only guns with original models are exotics. Everything else is just the same models with different colors. As for armors... Sorry but no. You want to reach lvl 30? You gotta wear raid gear, making you look exactly the same as everybody else Who's lvl 30, with the possible exception of one exotic armor piece. Huge character customization? Where? [quote]The sky boxes on all planets are stunning as well as the actual lay out and setting to each of them like earth is rusted wasteland and the moon well... The moon and Venus is a jungle and mars is a desert as well as the different enemies each with their own weaknesses and strengths.[/quote] This has never been argued. Sadly, good visuals and good music is not enough to save a game. And I'm sure the main selling point of a game is its gameplay, not its skyboxes. Apreciated and truly deserving of recognition, but thats not why we bought the game. [quote]The multiplayer (pvp) is amazing (and that is coming from a guy who gets very frustrated in pvp) as I love the different abilities and vehicles (though there could be more) that are on offer. Of course there are a few things that could tweak to make it better like the random rewards and possibly more vehicle maps as there are only two at the moment. [/quote] I don't play PVP much so I'll refrain from commenting in this point. But I personally believe we should refrain of judging PVP untill they are done patching it. [quote]I find the entire game a very satisfying way of gaming fun especially when you are playing with a friend or a clan to help you in your adventures. [/quote] Pretty much any game is better with friends. Even bad games. Don't believe me? Go watch lets players on youtube that do it with 2 or more people at a time. Like game grumps. Even if a game is a bad, playing it with a friend makes for fun times. Hey, you can make fun of the game with a friend. Those are good times right there. [quote] I really love this game and am really disappointed how badly people are treating it like this you tuber called angry joe who is a massive d**k who obviously only plays games to judge them and not to have fun like you are meant to. I would highly recommend this game to everyone who has enjoyed either Call of Duty, Halo, Skyrim and even some who likes InFamous.[/quote] So, he doesn't like a game you like and he's a dick? Doesn't this strike you as narrow minded? He's a reviewer. His job is to analyze games as objectively and critically as possible. Everybody plays videogames for fun. The thing is, not everyone finds the same things fun. He even mentioned in the beggining of his video that if you are the kind of person that likes grinding then that you would probably like the game. He aknowleges that there are people that will like the game. I personally would hesitate to recomend this to anyone. Here's why: Players that like CoD and halo want high paced and smooth PVP action. Destiny's PVP still has issues to fix. Like trading kills and lag. its still going through balancing. People generally don't like going throughthat process. People that like infamous and skyrim (like myself) will want an explorable big overworld and deep plot. Both of wich are very limited in destiny. To the point where they are almost non existant. [quote] I would rate this game a solid 9.0/10.0 I hope everyone will enjoy destiny and will keep playing.[/quote] Thats your opinion and I respect it. I would give it a 6.5/10 but thats my opinion and that shouldn't stop you from playing this game. By all means, go ahead and Play. I wish you luck. I will continue to lurk around here even after I stop playing, in hopes that destiny will one day realize its potential. But untill then, I can't defend it nor recommend it.

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      • Onto the feedback: the story will definitely improve with the DLC. New vehicles can be added. More areas will be added, as that is the point of the DLCs. More PvP types will be added with almost every update. Destiny has a bright future, that's for sure.

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      • I think the people who make it their calling to defend this piece of Shit, utter disappointment,excuse of a game, must either be PR Hacks hired by Bungie to try and save their lazy asses, or the kind of people who remember fondly the time their Uncles put his Dick in their Asses. Sorry, if the rest of us don't get off on being Abused! : )

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      • I'd give it a 4.5/10. Tl/ dr: Terrible story and execution. Pointless reputations and factions, complete identify crisis in terms of classes and loot. A "raid" of only 6 people. No effective communications. Endgame repetition of strikes, bounties. Gear is far to easy to obtain, legendarys don't feel legendary, exotics are common. Patrols are pointless. Story has more holes than Swiss cheese, poor character development. numerous exploits that weren't immediately fixed (pushing bosses, ect) Then there's the pvp...totally broken. Another failure of the loot system. No ctf or hardcore mode for more serious players. And most importantly, destiny has no direction and is like a lost puppy trying to find a home

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        • Edited by DEZARATH: 10/27/2014 10:27:24 AM
          After playing this game, I would never recommend this to a Mass Effect, Skyrim, and Farcry player at all. It's like trying to explain to a Michael Bay Transformer's fan why those movies are complete crap, and why Destiny is in the same category.

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          • If I made a list of pros and cons, it wouldn't be close.

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          • False advertising, misleading the consumer , no disclaimers on preliminary game play footage, lies upon lies, no apologies, no retractions. That is what is bad. Everything else can be fixed.

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            • Your agreements with the bad of destiny are condemning to this game. We may as well play COD or another shooter if we wanted good gunplay.

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            • Have you ever actually played this game?

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              • I have not seen anyone get any Exotic in PVP as a reward.... I havent even seen a legendary drop.... I probably dont play as much as you, but lets not act like its raining purple and yellow..... ( just wish story was better)

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                • Doesn't it feel like this game did a lot of things, and did them good! But not really good. Break this game into sections, PVE, PVP, RPG, ect. Destiny is a hybrid the likes we've never seen, they did well for incorporating all these different ideas into 1 game. But it doesn't feel like they got a home run with any of them. Customization is really lacking, to the point where you could almost pick any other game as a better example. All video games suffer from spamming same missions/tactics, if we're not getting a item we're protecting something. But I think destiny runs aground quickly because it really is the same missions, over and over again. The environment doesn't even change. Same spawns, same place. The only random is the public events. PvP is good, sold game play. Almost no complaints outside the random rewards. But again, other games have done it better. RPG, I really don't see any elements of RPG in here at all. You really don't make any decisions or have any control or effect on the outcome of the story at all. MMO, no idea as I've never played one. Make no mistake, I like destiny and in no way feel cheated out of my money. But I've played video games for many years and destiny, as is does not make my "you must play this or you will die" category. - I'm in no way a professional, first review I've ever done and submitted.

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                  • Edited by Uriyaal: 10/27/2014 9:43:41 AM
                    Angry Joe is the only reviewer i trust to be honest. and he rated it 6/10 or 7/10 which is the general player consensus. As well hes fairly professional about it, and like the rest of us are wondering wtf happened to all the story and legendary gameplay we were promised. Literally nothing is explained in the game, you have to leave the game, no raid or weekly/daily matchmaking you have to leave the game to find a group, which takes away from anyones immersion.

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                    • Edited by PsykhoTick: 10/27/2014 9:52:20 AM
                      [quote] Apart from that I don't see anything wrong with the game at all as the graphics and artwork are incredible as well as the audio.[/quote] I know the game is bad, but it's pretty. [quote]The gameplay and controls are very smooth as they are mixture between call of duty and halo.[/quote] Pretty much the only thing holding it up. [quote]There are loads of weapons and armor to customize and make your character look awsome.[/quote] Not if you want top level. Cookie-cutter bitches all. [quote]The sky boxes on all planets are stunning as well as the actual lay out and setting to each of them like earth is rusted wasteland and the moon well... The moon and Venus is a jungle and mars is a desert[/quote] Back to the pretty argument. Did you know that these maps couldn't justify a Battlefield match? [quote]as well as the different enemies each with their own weaknesses and strengths.[/quote] Not really. Dome all but the Vex and shoot the pretty colors with matching ones.

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                    • It is the fact that they have the good version of the game. They made it and advertised it. They just didn't give it to us. Its kinda like you see a picture of a pizza, order the pizza, then along the way from the kitchen to your plate you got a taco.

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                    • This game is utter trash and should be buried next to E. T. Story- is there one? Don't say grimorecards either I bought a game for substance not for a digital picture book extension. World/level design - I've seen more thought out and interesting minecraft levels. Not to mention how small these levels/planets actually are. Shit pretty sure doom quake or any of the oldies had bigger maps. Customization - don't expect anyone to argue this on cause there is none. Leveling - is there even a point to Leveling other than to prevent us from putting on too good of gear to early? There no know stats I know of your character gets from Leveling. Space ships - honestly the hell is the point of these things other than to create more load screens to try and make the game Appear to have more content. In my 200 hours of play time I'm really curious as to how much of that was spent looking at that damn ship. Unique weapons - there are none thanks to pvp, other than maybe ice breaker due to it regening ammo. People need to stop defending this sub-par piece of trash. It's obviously a stripped down beater of what was promised. My defense of my time played in this game is 1 I'm hard core shit I've got over 900 hours on Diablo 3 for my pc. Second I really did want to like it but do the research and stop kidding yourselves you're getting ripped off. Overall rating 3.5 out of 10 it's sub par for what we should expect with today's standards.

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                      • I like the game, i play every day i can, occasionally taking a break to play Assasins Creed 4 or watch Netflix with my girlfriend Some people are just under the impression that this was going to be "Skyrim with Spacemagic and Gunz" or that they are entitled to things simply because they bought the game, lets face it yes it lacks story but for the price you pay? Still worth it compared to some games out that you would pay the same price ( or more ) for ( Ryse Son of Rome I'm looking at you ) Im going to be buying the DLC's for sure, and im going to buy the sequel if it looks good too, but im not on these forums whining about it either, unlike some people.

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                        • personally loving the game & agree with you, with regards to the random loot drops my experiences haven't been brilliant and I think it's as a whole like that, I've got strange coins from legendary engrams (big bummer) but the best way to get good stuff and it isn't hard. -run tiger strike playlist and farm public events to get your 100 marks doesn't take long then buy legendary stuff from vendors plus you could get lucky with rewards -levelling vendors is pretty fast if you log on and do bounties each day plus they are usually quick -do weekly heroic and nightfall if you can get a higher level buddy to help rewards are usually good on these nightfall I've had exotics and legendary's -run the raid with a group of high lvl's on normal. Doing these once a week should net you plenty of loot rewards. Never failed me. And XUR for the exotic armour :)

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                        • Edited by Nabia: 10/26/2014 11:50:25 PM
                          Rating this game a 3/5 overall. Gameplay - Solid. Though there are some unbalance and/or broken mechanics which are being addressed. Story - Vague. At this point, the story is very incomplete, and leaves open TOO many unanswered questions. Further, the player was never properly introduced to the story and world at large, and NPCs are just boring set pieces and mission turn-ins... Looting - There is a fair bit of variety... but not on the level you'd expect and demand from a game of this scale when compared to any other RPG (Diablo, Mass Effect, Borderlands, Guild Wars 2). Further, this game REALLY needs to reward effort. RNG is fine, but efforts should also be accounted for in a fair manner. Light Levels... - At this point, they should prolly be removed... its more trouble than it is worth. More like a job to grind out materials to upgrade your armor to get to the proper level to face a challenge that has a small chance of dropping slightly better gear REQUIRED for max level... D&D Online tried this, and... it failed... down in flames, and an apology from the developers. Remove and Fix. Exotics - The devs need to come out and tell players what they are actually intended to be. Many people are of the opinion that they SHOULD be OP because they are Exotic... which is wrong. Imo, they should be slightly better, and just chnage the way the game is played. As well, the world is over-saturated by these most prestigious of equipment. Whats the point of them if EVERYONE has them?? Level Design - Fantastic. Jesus, this game is well built and pretty... MAN. That said, there are some exploits which will be mended that people just need to get the -blam!- over because... they are exploits. They are goin to be fixed because its NOT how the game was meant to be played. Further, specifically in PvP, there are certain maps that just... SUCK at certain gametypes (Control - Blind Watch... FIX B!!!). Events - They were CLEARLY not tested... they were lazily put together and thought out. They are being change and fix, and I am excited for the next Iron Banners... bu the Damage has been dealt...

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                          • It's all about expectations.

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                            • Did you enjoy my reference (sneaky voice)

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                            • I love the game. It has its flaws, yes. But I think the reason why I love the game is because the gameplay is good enough to help me overlook the flaws. BUT, there are some things that need to change Loot drop rates are ridiculous. My last legendary drop was Friday October 17. And my reward for the nightfall was a crappy legendary fusion rifle. Switching weapons around in battle is uselessly hard, and an embarrassment to the game creators. There's no possible way that people who created the game could possibly think this method was even remotely adequate and they should be fired ad publicly shamed. Only a moron would think its a good idea to have to go into a menu that lags for up to ten seconds just to switch from sniper rifle to shot gun. Same with using ammo synth. I mean, really guys? I could go on, but why? Overall the game is really good.

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                            • Please do comment and reply

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                              • Agree 100%

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