[b]*Be respectful in the comments. Talk as you would if your parents were with you.* Don't respond with anything that doesn't offer criticism in return. I put my thoughts together coherently, and I expect the same respect.[/b] Scout rifles are in serious need of some upgrades. I'll divide this post into 3 parts for clarity. Part 1: Flinch is an automatic victory for AR users. Part 2: Scout rifle damage table & breakdown Part 3: What tweaks I suggest [b]Part 1 - Flinch is an automatic victory for AR users.[/b] Scout rifles are less than or equal to Assault rifles currently. For those who don't know, flinch is a built-in mechanic that decreases your accuracy when you're being shot at. This is extremely problematic for scout rifle users in specific. It's almost nearly impossible to outgun someone with an AR because of the severity of flinch. If you're getting shot at, your shots are inaccurate. Even if your crosshair is directly on his head, the shot might miss because of an accuracy debuff known as flinch. The only way it's even possible to compete with an AR user is if you land all headshots. If you can't hit all headshots against an AR user, most of the time you'll lose. If you're aiming at the head, there's little room for error, and flinch exploits that. Flinch will drag your aim upwards and as well make your shots inaccurate. For a gun which is supposed to be better for marksmen, luck needs to be on your side to win a direct battle with an AR user. I have a solution for this in Part 3. [b]Part 2 - Scout rifle damage table.[/b] The best scout rifle in the game which I know about is the exotic Mida Multi-tool. This table nearly represents this exotic gun. Body shot damage: 35, Headshot damage: 52. Precision damage modifier: 1.5x Average health for a user in Crucible is 200. It can be near 220 with nearly max toughness in Crucible. To kill someone with the average health (200): 6 body shots 5 body shots, 1 headshot 3 body shots, 2 headshots 2 body shots, 3 headshots 4 headshots (5 if user has max toughness) Rate of fire speed of Mida Multi-tool: 2.5 shots/second [b]Part 3 - What tweaks I suggest[/b] 1) Scout rifles should all have the perk "This gun is easier to shoot with while under fire" - This would help counteract the inaccuracy of flinch to help Scout rifle users tremendously. 2) Give 1.75x or 2x precision damage with the scout rifles. 1.5 isn't enough to out DPS if both an AR user and Scout rifle user meet and both hit headshots consistently. If I'm being crutched by using a weapon which requires me to get headshots consistently to win, I should be able to out-DPS them, not be on a level playing field. 3) Possible some extra base damage, but not much. 10%-15% would be fitting. -- If you're interested in how good of a player I am, [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/1/4611686018431876963/2305843009223193170#context=crucible&section=none]here's my stats[/url]. I seem to always get responses on my threads "Oh you must not be good, that's why you want a nerf/buff".