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Edited by DarkChildOfLight: 10/15/2014 5:20:31 PM
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Here's To My Fellow Thorn Owners! [Now with Thorn Exotic Bounty tips!]

Cheers to everyone who completed the Thorn Exotic bounty and didn't bitch about the PvP part. Here's to you! [b]Shameless Clan Plug[/b] [Thorn knows no shame!] You are all invited to join my newly created clan [b][i][u]Thorny Guardians[/u][/i][/b] for a drink up and a Thorn-themed dance party! - http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/511412 Also, there will be a brew off! See if the admins at [b]Dernami[/b] or [b]Apathy[/b], clans that I have been with since the beginning, will let you join us too! Add me on PS4: [b]DarkChildOfLight[/b] I'd also like to extend this invitation to the clans to those who are seeking help with this Exotic Bounty. [b]Useful Tips [/b] [b]'A Light In The Dark' - Exotic Bounty - PvP Requirements:[/b] Earn 500 Void Points in The Crucible ([b]Note:[/b] 500 points, [i]not[/i] 500 kills). +5 per void kill. 0 points per normal (kinetic) / Arc / Solar kill -2 per death. Here are some tips - designed for a total PvP newbie - to make it easy for those who wish to join us Thorny Guardians for shots. I managed to get Thorn without having a K/D over 1.00 at the time. This bounty need not be a Thorn in your backside. [b]PvP - My [i]Super Good Advice[/i] To You[/b] The Biggest tip I can give you is this.[i] A non-void kill is still better than a death...[/i] - Stay close to your team mates! Follow the crowd! Be the sheep! Go where they go and stop where they stop! Don't lone wolf unless you know what you are doing! If you run with other people there is less of a chance of you being killed and you avoid those 1vs1s, or worse, you being ganged up on! Your team mates may start to damage the enemy and you can deal the killing blow! Assists count as a kill, or close to it in points - so following your team like sheep is a HUGE bonus - Don't play rumble maps as it is MUCH harder to get "assist" points. Control is the best gametype for this bounty or Iron Banner, when available. - Patience! This may take a few hours, a few evenings or even a few days depending on your skill level in PvP. It is NOT impossible. You may just need to be more adaptable. As long as you have some radar awareness you will be fine. - Radar. Just incase somebody is really perplexed, here is a video that explains how the Destiny radar works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDumLvofnLc Radar II - Only aim down sights (ADS) when you need to. i.e. engaged in a gunfight. Your Radar will not be visible when you ADS unless you have an exotic such as the Hunter's Knucklehead Radar Helm (which only works for Primary - non void - weapons anyway). Radar III - If you crouch you will disappear and reappear on the radar at regular intervals. This can help to confuse the enemy as they may see you disappear from their radar and assume that you have been killed. Better players will realise that this isn't the case, as I will explain next. - Skulls. When someone on the enemy team dies a white skull will mark the location that they died at. Keep an eye on your surroundings for these as it is a good indicator of where the front lines are and where the danger is coming from if you are not close enough for your radar to pick them up. - Camping. In Destiny the Radar is [i]always[/i] active! For everyone! You can't camp in the way that you would in other games but you can still camp. You just have to be smart about it. As you know by now, the radar has a limited range. The best way to camp is by using blind corners and small rooms. You WANT the enemy to come to you but you don't want them to know exactly where you are unless you are on a control flag or something. Use the radar to your advantage. - Headshots. Destiny PvP headshots are essential for precision weapons! If you can't score headshots then you NEED to use the Fusion Rifle or Shotgun and most likely the Rocket Launcher aswell. - Primary weapons deal Kinetic damage. You won't complete this bounty with kills from your primary. Unless you have some Void dealing Primary Exotic weapon that I don't know about. - Equip your best void special and heavy weapons. (Purple spiral symbol) - Image of Void symbol - http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uTLosBMLt3Q/maxresdefault.jpg http://i1.wp.com/planetdestiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/damagetypes21.png?resize=660%2C330 - All you need to do is keep a positive-ish K/D while getting Void kills. 5 points per void kill. -2 points per death. Neutral per normal kill. - The Warlock Melee, grenade and Nova Bomb (Void Walker Sub-class) deal void damage so its much easiest to do this as a Warlock. However, just because it takes longer with the other classes doesn't mean its not doable. It just means that you can't melee, nade or super to finish them off on this bounty. Do, however use your melee, nade or Super if it will save you from a setback. - Fusion Rifles. If you know someone is close then start charging your weapon pre-emptively. You needn't bother with ADS. It makes no difference either way as far as damage and accuracy are concerned. Aim for their center mass! If you can get used to this weapon you will find that it is more dangerous than a shotgun. The giveaway is that your enemy can hear your weapon charging up so timing is crucial. - Snipers. One shot kill to the head. Two shots to the body. Make your shots count and equip the low zoom scope! When you aim down sight with a sniper rifle your enemy can see a red laser. This is why they won't keep still when they see you targetting them. If you are having trouble sniping an enemy on the move then consider: a) raising your agility (class build) b) raising your movement sensitivity c) changing your scope d) sniping from further away e) using a different special weapon - If you want to rush go with a void shotgun or fusion rifle. You can one shot up close with the fusion or you can melee then shotgun for the finishing blow. Melee attacks do not kill in one hit when the enemy is at full health. The exeption is Shoulder Charge and Blink Strike from behind with the perk. Neither of those will help you with this bounty though since they deal Arc damage. - If you want to take it slow you can use any special weapon. Snipe from the back. Camp corners with the shotty or watch tight corridors and passes with the fusion rifle. - Class build. If you've been doing alot of PvE you may need to take a look at your class build to make it suited to your playstyle in PvP. If you are using the shotty or fusion rifile then you want to focus on [b]Armour[/b] and [b]Recovery[/b]. If you are sniping then you want to focus on [b]Agility[/b]. - Titans. Use the Defender Sub-Class since Fist of Havoc is Arc and won't help you. Plop a Ward of Dawn Bubble down on the B flag on Control when your team are capturing it. Use a Void Shotgun. Anyone who comes into your bubble will be toast to your shotgun! The other team won't be able to do much unless the use a super on the bubble or inside of it. Have fun with this! - Hunters. Use the blade dancer Sub Class. Remember that there is a huge delay on activation so don't activate it when the enemy is in your face. Rather anticipate that you are going to be overwhelmed and activate it while in cover. Use this super defensively when you feel you will be outmatched. Your goal is to stay alive and remove the immediate threats. Staying alive is technically helping you on this bounty but getting 15 arc blade kills won't help you to progress since it deals Arc damage. - Invisibility. You should be aware that there is still a blue shimmering outline around you that people can see when you are invisible. You need to crouch and not move for it to be fully effective. - Rocket Launcher. Go with one that holds two shells and has good area of effect. Don't waste time by ADS. Fire from the hip. Aim at their feet. Consider jumping first so you avoid blowing yourself up (if time permits). - `Special Ammo. Pick it up, unless you have more than enough! - Heavy Ammo. When Dinklebot tells you Heavy Ammo is coming you get yourself to that spot! Don't waste time, this is basically Void bonus mode! Just try not to die getting to it. - Heavy Ammo II - If you die with Heavy Ammo you will lose it when you respawn. If you kill someone who had Heavy Ammo you can pick it up! MAXimise your kills when you have Heavy Ammo! Don't put yourself at risk! There isn't a timer on it! There is only a penalty for death and a loss of Heavy Ammo for dying. - Heavy Ammo III - If you are a good shot then go with the Machine Gun. You'll get more kills for your ammo. If you are a bit more panicky, inaccurate and / or trigger happy then go Rocket Launcher. Be sure to have your Heavy Ammo weapon loaded before you run into an enemy! If you pick Heavy Ammo up from a crate it will load immediately. If you picked it up from the ground you will have to manually reload your weapon. [b]PvE - Xyor, the Unwed [Single because of his bad breath!][/b] - The person who is doing the bounty has to activate the mission as the fireteam leader! - Be at least Rank 24. - This is a special level 26 mission. - Don't go solo! If you need some friends to help you out then ask in this thread or join my clan Thorny Guardians. We'll get you there! - The easiest way to do it is to stay in the back of the cave where the shrieker spawns. Just keep an eye out for when it spawns and get behind the wall. Don't kill the shrieker! Just stay alive. Xyor will appear with the 2nd, 3rd or 4th Hive Tomb ship. He will come to the cave eventually. You need to kill the hordes to get more tomb ships to come. It also helps to damage Phogoth to below 50% health. - The Wizards are weak to Solar damage (Fire symbol) - The Knights are weak to Arc or Void (I can't remember which)

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  • Great post! Now if they buffed the hand cannons and exotics a bit more I'd be a happy gunslinger!

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  • Just got the Thorn myself and the pain in the ass Xyor mission was worth it. I threw my old rare Hand cannon at some random hive i saw roaming the Cosmodrome and haven't looked back since.

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    • Edited by TigBits: 10/15/2014 5:13:34 PM
      Please edit this in to your post: Assists count as a kill, or close to it in points - so following your team like sheep is a HUGE bonus - Dont play rumble maps as it is MUCH harder to get "assist" points Also, another way to help us warlocks is to try and equip void walker exotic chest piece, 1. it gives you an extra axion bolt for your grenade. 2. you always respawn with a grenade That being said, what an awesome post - GJ!!!! i had to figure alot of this out myself when i did the bounty but great work non the less

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      • TY for the post, but I am getting like 3 points a kill I really cant tell what I get per death. Sometimes its 2 sometimes its 1. But its getting kind of annoying that Im not getting the same point scale others talk about. It has really slowed down the process.

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        • If you get lucky try to complete the raid and hope for Atheon's Epilogue. This way your void kills will be alot easier to complete. :) Defender titans and Void walkers combined with a shotty/fusion with void and a LMG with void is great too.

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          • I need help getting thorn if anyone is available to help, I need to do the part where you kill xyor and whatever comes after that. Im on xbox360 and my gamertag is thayakboi248, add me if you can help or need help yourself.

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          • Here, here! Cheers to Thorn, the best weapon in the game! And I don't understand why people complain so much about the PvP part. I enjoyed it, got it finished easy in a couple of hours.

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            • Just got the engram last night can't wait to get it I love my hand cannons

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            • Edited by Teknikz: 10/14/2014 10:18:04 PM
              Nice. I am in. Cheers to You OP. Helped like 3 people complete the (Xyur?) part. Thorn is awesome and I can't wait for the buff. My most used weapon probably.

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              • Is thorn required to join?

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                • Edited by InsaneBase: 10/14/2014 9:16:16 PM
                  Great post! I just finished the Crucible part ([url=http://www.bungie.net/de/Forum/Post/id=73033726/0/0]yay me![/url])! My story in the link above, TL;DR: I can only encourage everyone to at least try, it's easier than you may think! Good luck everyone!

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                • good post, Thorn is a bruiser my story below (long) Thorn Marathon Bounty Complete -First Exotic by Gaming Grandpa (BC M109) thank you to a great Destiny Guardian community, specifically Fang Valkeri and Howling Azure for their heavy lifting help taking out Xyor the unwed to complete this bounty. The satisfaction factor was amazing seeing that thorn icon pop up on my 73" 1080p screen when Xyor dropped during the most intense warfare i have experienced as a lvl 27 Hunter. i had no idea what i was in for when i received the notice i had a special bounty offered. i wish i could have controlled my adrenaline better when i had those 3 bounty choices offered for my first exotic. i just chose the first one that said something about light. i probably should have taken the time to check the forums or googled the bounties first to see what laid in store. finding out, as the bounty unfolded, was a challenging, massive mind blower to me. 500 Hive Points, 500 Void Points in PVP ( you got to be kidding, my KD is way less than one, even though i do enjoy the competition in PVP), then take on a Epic (never seen so much hell fire coming at me at once) Summing Pit Strike to take out the reluctant Xyor who is hanging with Phogoth, Hive points increased fairly quickly, so i was thinking this didn’t seem too difficult, but what a scrub i was, thinking that completed the bounty. wow more to do, once i found out this was a marathon not a sprint, i got online and began to unpack the ramifications of committing my time, effort, emotional battery life to obtaining a somewhat ethereal hand cannon with a dubious reputation. Not able to use my primary weapon (the devil you know) in the Crucible, mentally freaked me out. my first 3 rumble matches netted me a zero progress on the Void portion of the bounty. i really contemplated folding my hand on this one. Turned off the 360, got a sandwich, read some tips from other guardians on the forums, grabbed my void shotgun and heavy machine gun, and about 6 hrs latter, watched the 500 point icon flash on my screen while my squad was dominating in control. fight with my team, no solo john wayne antics, camp the heavy ammo locations. euphoria from a game, much like the feeling of trophying in my younger days racing motorcycles off road in the desert, in SoCal. savored the moment of victory over the PVP hurdle of this climbing everest bounty. went right back to the tower, did the required exchanges to proceed to the ultimate and final hurdle to obtaining my first exotic. wow, how does a video game do this to a silver haired, built in 1955, (the summer Disneyland opened) guy. investing with enthusiasm, all this effort into achieving a exotic digital engram/ weapon. congratulations bungie. i am amazed how far gaming has come since duck hunt on the nintendo. so with gusto lets get the party started, i moved my onscreen indicator over the newly added location icon on the moon. Lvl 26 epic modifier, Xyor challenge. solo, i ran past everything once in game thinking i'll conserve ammo only to be destroyed in the second room by the hell fire wizards and nights. Epic modifier seemed crushing. tried it again that night 3 more times until my fingers were frozen to my controller. that euphoria of the 500 void point achievement was gone replaced with the twin sisters- gloom and doom. Fired up the 360 the next evening taking a deep breath and rethinking what i was about to do. Now instead of rushing my lvl 27 Gunslinger into action, i headed opposite of my indicator to get my "golden gun" super charged up and some heavy ammo hopefully by taking out some of the locals on the moon. hammered them, filled up my super, heavy ammo and ran into Fang Valkri a high level guardian while doing so. i decided to take a chance and reach out to a unknown. i messaged him asking for help on my maybe a one hour epic thorn bounty. he answered affirmative, and he joined my fireteam and we took on the most intense fire fight mission i have participated in. having someone who packs a punch and can heal you was a gift. we got through to the last room. Phogoth, and his hench men hammered us over and over again. Fang invited Howling Azure who accepted the struggle and the 3 of us not only got the Thorne unbound icon to pop up but we stayed and finished off phogoth to make the event epic. thank you bungie for the experience, thank you guardians who share this unique to our generations gaming world to enjoy it in. ps: took that thorn out for a spin through several strikes and am appreciating this hand cannon immensely. not that it towers above my devil you know sidearm, but the thing is what this six gun represents as i wield it. being my first exotic, the campaign to harvest it, this thorn’s satisfaction factor makes it a untradeable experience when utilized. Thanks for taking the time to read. Good gaming to all.

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                  • I almost have the thorn on last part

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                    • Edited by iMurklins: 10/14/2014 2:02:56 PM
                      Protip - have a arm piece with hand cannon reload speed, and when reloading thorn, as soon as the clip goes into the cylinder and makes a click sound, sprint forward to cancel the reload animation, boom, reload speed sorted.

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                      • Edited by SCOTTY H28: 10/15/2014 1:41:29 AM
                        I'm looking for help Killing Xyor if anyone is interested. Gamertag - Scotty H28 Lvl 27 Titan Location - Australia Xbox One

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                        • It's not bad, but my loyalty's going to Fatebringer.

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                        • Anyone here play on PS3 and want to help me past the Xyor part? My psn is Connorhake-ton

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                        • I did it a while back. Lit took so... so... long. I don't even use it very often. It looks amazing though.

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                        • Took me like maybe 2 hours to finish it all.

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                        • Hawkmoon.

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                        • A detailed vid for those who dont like to read =D

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                        • Another tip When going for void kills, Rumble is your friend. Knocked it out in 5 matches. Could've been 4 matches but there was a Titan giving me trouble but I liked the challenge and so I stayed in that match. Good luck to all going for Thorn, it's an amazing weapon despite what people are saying :)

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                          • [quote]Primary weapons deal Kinetic damage. You won't complete this bounty with kills from your primary. Unless you have some Void dealing Primary Exotic weapon that I don't know[/quote] Atheon's Epilogue is a primary Auto rifle that deals void damage. Dunno how it is now w/ the hotfix tho

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                            • I'm on the Xyor part myself. I have been attempting it solo but am having difficulties when you have to defend your ghost while e is opening the door. I'm fine until the 4 shielded wizards charge me with their bombardments. Even Icebreaker was too slow to kill them. Is there a safer way to take them out? A more defendable spot maybe?

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                              • Edited by MrFaets: 10/14/2014 5:34:42 PM
                                Only other thing I would recommend is to use a machine gun. Most kill in a couple of shots, so if you stall alive with it you will be able to rack up more kill than you would a rocket launcher EDIT: must have skipped Heavy Ammo III haha my bad

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