i haven't seen any game pull off the in depth massively multiplayer battles in any successful way since the days of early everquest.. 100+ people completely focused, highly skilled, extremely well equipped, working together in perfect unison for 6+ hours straight to kill hundreds of enemies and then a long extremely tough fight to bring down a god.. but little kids with no attention span and an entire culture focused around instant gratification killed that. also to those saying it can't handle it..of course it can. they would just have to host almost everything serverside with good servers and make their programming..be less shitty. in 2000 we had a game doing massive amounts of effects on old shitty computers with 100+ real people and dozens and dozens of enemies rendered simultaneously all running around, fighting, casting spells, buffing eachother, all with different armor etc etc. no excuse now except cheapness on the part of the companies involved. i would love to see this..but i doubt it would ever happen. i could see strongpoint survival or something but bungie will restrict it to 6 people, not give you any chat ability, and still make the loot be random (give the best stuff to the worst person) so..pointless. 32 guardians fighting waves of 200+ enemies at a time with 30 second timers between waves and phogoth x4 sized bosses occasionally that crap out a rainstorm of legendaries and exotics or ultra-exotics would be nice though.