This topic is either a troll topic, or OP is simply [i]lazy[/i] and needs to STFU. Here's why; [quote]I do not have the time nor the 5 people I can get.[/quote] It [i]literally[/i] takes less than 10 minutes to find a group to raid with on [u][i]ANY[/i][/u] console, using either/both destinylfg and/or the forums. [b][i][u]YOU[/u][/i][/b] don't even have to create a topic/lfg post; all you literally have to do is go to a topic and say; hey, I'll join! There's plenty of people who want to do the raid all the time, and plenty who [i][u]haven't[/u][/i] done it at all and want to as well. I do this [i]all[/i] the time, and I raid with random groups, most of which I never play with again (not for any bad reason, I just don't). It's literally no big deal. And I'm particularly a solo gamer; other than Destiny, I never party up or play with anyone (other than with real life friends). The whole "anti-social" excuse people use is 100% bullsh*t; if you wanna do it, just do it. [quote] I should be able to continue leveling up normal armor to reach level 30.[/quote] Why? Literally, what's so f*cking practical about it? The [b][i][u]only[/u][/i][/b] reason in the entire game to want to get to level 30 is to make [u][i]the raid on hard mode[/i][/u] just a little bit easier. That's it. [i][u]That is literally it[/u][/i]. There's no achievement/trophy for it, there's no enemies anywhere else in the game that are above 26 to make your boots shake, it's not a requirement to get access to something, there's literally [b][i][u]nothing[/u][/i][/b]. So tell me, [i]if you're not even going to do the raid anyways, [u]on any difficulty[/u][/i], why does being level 30 matter so much to you? You're fine being level 29 kid. [quote]plus I don't think I have the dedication to complete it if I fail many times[/quote] Well considering you probably haven't even played the raid, you should probably know; a first timer is guaranteed death, multiple times. This is undeniable [b][i][u]fact[/u][/i][/b]. I did. But I got over it, and got better. Now I breeze through the entire raid, start to finish, in roughly an hour (even with just a "decent" team). All you're literally doing is complaining because you're lazy, and don't want to do something because "it's not going the way I want." Get over it and do the raid, or stay at level 29. Either way, just shut up. I couldn't care less.

Well you can't reach level 30 with regular armor so deal with it.

I'm sort of pissed that Iron Banner gear doesn't get you to 30. There's no PvP method to getting 30. I literally can obtain nothing useful from the Iron Banner for my current characters that can play in it.

Then this isn't the game for you then. But let's be honest here its so easy to get 5 other people and I did VoG today in a hour with a bunch of random people. Put in the effort and get that shit done.

There's literally no reason for you to be level 30 if you will never raid.

I agree to a point. I do believe the raid shouldn't be the only way to level 30, but I don't believe any way should be quick.

So what you are saying is you don't deserve to be level 30