I'm not entirely sure why Joe bothered with a review this time? Anything other than a day one review doesn't serve its purpose as a review. Essentially by the time this, and the other online/publication reviews came out, we've already bought the game. At which point what exactly does a review do? It either a. agrees with your already determined opinion or b. doesn't agree with your opinion. Don't get me wrong, I like Joe and he is entertaining, but his reviews are often the worst kind of popular bandwagoning, parroting the vocal minority rather than forming an opinion truly his own. As well loved as his reviews are by a lot of people, they are by far the weakest element of his production these days. For me, I admit I bought the game off the hype, but that hasn't stopped it being the single most fun experience I've had on the ps4 this generation. I haven't played a game this much for this long in an absolute age. It ticks a lot of boxes for me. There is plenty of potential ahead if Bungie play it right and I'm willing to give them a chance to prove it. Are there issues? I guess it depends on your definition of issues... Is the story hidden in the grimoire and hidden online rather than in-game... yes... is that a problem - not for me (I'm happy to read the Grimoire when I'm not playing the game). Is the game grindy past 20... yes... but for me at least that means you have to put some effort in if you want to achieve the better loot. I accepted this in WoW and I accept it here. Will I ever do the Vault of Glass? No idea, but if I don't then that's ok there's a tier of equipment out of reach. Everything else you can level your rep up for, or collect motes or coins etc. It's all achievable - Bungie are just asking you to work for it. That honestly isn't an unreasonable ask to me. If I had to offer any niggles, I'd list the PS4 "exclusives" as the biggest waste of effort ever (especially as it alienated the xbox players for no reason). Only the Strike is worthwhile although for my money it is one of the most fun. But in levelling 3 characters (and I re-rolled my 16 warlock for face-change purposes) I haven't seen a single "exclusive" class item drop... kind of pointless for any of them to appear now that I'm looking for purple gear... Other than that, perhaps allowing more characters to be created would be cool. The only story niggle I'd raise is that it would have been cool to see some reference to the race of the characters in the cutscenes. The Awoken could have reacted differently to an Awoken character for example - or mystery exo lady to an exo character. Even so, nothing above alters my feelings on the game. So for me, as entertaining as Joe is, this isn't a review I need to watch. I have already formed my opinion of the game and someone else's opinion and an arbitrary score out of 10 serves no purpose to me. I am still playing it two weeks after release and see no let-up there. I now have three characters 20+ (Hunter 22, Warlock 21 and a Titan 20) and two of them (warlock/titan) have yet to finish the story mode. I love the pvp, I'm really getting into the Strikes and I even like playing the Cryptarch lottery (got 1 purple off a green so far!). I don't need a review to give me a score and a rant about what isn't up to scratch in their opinion (or rather the vocal minorities opinion). For me, this game is one I like and I'm playing. For whatever reason, this 40+ gamer has been impressed with Destiny and long may I continue to play it.

Joe is completely right. Anyone out there who is praising this game just can't come to accept the fact that this game isn't great, like I did. There was a better game almost 2 years ago, but I forget the name. I think it was called Destiny, which was supposed to be this amazing open world experience which was very social and always making us come back for more and had beautiful and plentiful customization options. Apparently that got canceled, then they started making a new game called "Activision selling us 80% of the game in the future". This game was the biggest letdown of all games I have ever played. Titanfall even made me come back now and then. Edit:yes I have invested around 60 hours into this game, but it's not bringing me back for the good reasons, so stop trying to say I'm "lying" because if my opinion you butthurt fanboys

I've defended this shit tooth and nail on 4chan and IRL to no end.... ...and I'm going to stop. I've got three Destiny posters hung up in my room. I've spent hundreds of dollars on Destiny merch...I've worn my midnight launch bracelet since I got it after waiting over 8 hours outside of Gamestop, and I literally bought two copies of the game because I was getting my limited on Amazon delivered, but wanted to play the game at midnight badly enough to pay for the standard edition at midnight. Joe nailed everything about it after giving the game a completely fair shot. I know Activision isn't going to let the expansions go for free, but honestly that's the only thing they could do at this point to restore faith in the game. I don't think that Bungie could have possibly structured the game in this way on purpose. I think that it was Activision's doing, and -blam!- if I'm not really heart broken about it. Somewhere along the line they gave Activision too much power, and it -blam!-ing corrupted them. Come on, Bungie....I'm a huge fan...you need to make a statement about this. I'm sure you can't throw Activision under the bus on this one because of some legal crap, but man...you guys were supposed to be independent. You signed a freakin' declaration of Independence from Microsoft [spoiler](a picture of which I have saved on my computer!!!!)[/spoiler] and you let [i][b]this[/b][/i] happen to your freakin' game!!! Ugh! Destiny is still fun, and I'm going to keep playing it, but man, it's a morale killer. It really is.

For those of you who are too young or not in the know, Angry Joe is probably one of the most fair, realistic, unbiased and down to earth game reviewers on the internet. Check out his previous reviews as a reference. He understands what makes or breaks a game for the majority of the gaming community.

Shit back in the day, you could get a game 3 times this size for HALF the price. People are saying DON'T COMPLAIN??? 8 maps out of the box? Shit we used to get like 10 to 15, for LESS! Then, they want to make you pay even MORE for another 2 MAYBE 3 maps?! Companies have gotten people so used to less and less, its pathetic! Don't be simple minded people, wise up! You're paying hard earned cash for HALF a product, so that they can drive around in Lincolns and Mercedes, and you're stuck with a damn Prius or worse!

His review was spot on. I'm enjoying Destiny, and my main complaint was the story...just wasn't there.

Thank you Joe. You are starting to redeem yourself for mindlessly bashing Xbox.

I guess it's too hard to look into the grimoire for lore to answer those questions he has. It was ground breaking when it was done in games like system shock, but now people seem to take it for granted and actually reading information is too much effort. And the cut scene he's bitching about after the gate lord isn't setting up paid DLC. I lol'd at the part where he said that there was added verticality compared to halo. I also like there part where the guy is mad at getting 11 ascendant shards lol. Ahahaha PvP is excellent? It's a mess of one shots and peer to peer lag.

I do like Angry Joe's reviews despite not always agreeing with them. However, for all the moronic children in this topic, I'm going to quote yahtzee at you as it's very relevant: "It's worth remembering that all reviews are subjective personal opinions and if you personally enjoy the game, then they shouldn't get to you. Unless there's a despicable nagging little doubt in the back of your mind that maybe you're not having as much fun as you've convinced yourself you're having. And won't go away no matter how many times you try to slap it away with weak excuses." Granted, it's paraphrased and a lot of the colorful language is cut out... But, a lot of you Destiny fanboys should remember that, as your defense of the game often sounds exactly like what he's describing.