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The Russian military...is using M4's

This deserved a thread I....never thought this day would happen. A Russian, using a AR-15. Discuss America's Cold War victory
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  • Edited by BerzerkCommando: 8/17/2014 1:04:04 AM
    Are they going to rob a bank? They're wearing ski masks, but they're not going skiing and it doesn't look cold out.

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    • Edited by Hostile AKs: 8/17/2014 4:22:38 AM
      The one on the right is a ak or sk you can see the gas block and everything on it. And its a 7.62x59 magazine. I cant tell what the one on the left is because of the camouflage. Those are just mag pul stocks. They make those for every gun.

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      • It looks like the Remington that uses AK style rounds. I forgot the name, it's SR something I think.

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      • That's not an ar 15 it's a new kind of hk

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        • Does it matter what they use?

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          • Sadly most weapons are not country based but are now corporation built. Even planes.

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          • Those uniforms are pretty cool

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          • Edited by Master Chief: 8/1/2014 4:59:39 AM
            AR-15>AK Always -Much more accurate. I've shot more ARs than I can count and almost every one will shoot an inch or less group at 100 yards. Every AK I've shot will get no better than a three inch group at 100 yards. -Faster rate of fire. A full auto AR platform will get around 850 rpm, AKs will get around 500-600. -Despite what everyone says, the 5.56x45 is more powerful than the 7.62x39. The facts and history back it up. A 63gr 5.56 will get around 3,100 fps. A 123gr 7.62 will get around 2,396 fps. There is some trade off here as the AK does have marginally more stopping power with the heavier bullet combined with the tumbling effect. However the 5.56 will counter this trade off with the same tumbling effect and the higher velocity which means it can go to farther distances. In the 1960s the U.S. Army did a test comparing the M16, the M14, and the AK-47. One test was to penetrate a steel helmet at 500 yards. The M14 and M16 passed with flying colors, the AK-47 failed. The Soviets themselves copied the 5.56x45 by making their own round known as the 5.45x39 which performs much better than the old 7.62. -The argument that the AK-47 is simpler to use is an absolute lie. To reload the AK, all you have to do is rock in the magazine and rack the bolt. The AR is pretty simple too, just push in the magazine and push a little button on the left side of the receiver. Seems just as simple to me. Now for the big argument. -The AK is in fact not more reliable than the AR. Now before you get all pissy and walk away, hear me out. The horror stories of soldiers dying in Vietnam because their M16s jammed did actually happen. BUT. These were the experimental XM16E1 rifles. They had no forward assist, no chrome lining, and were supposedly able to go on forever without being cleaned. The U.S. military called all of them back and sent out a much better version called the M16A1. This had forward assist, chrome lining, all of that. Since then, there has NEVER been a significant event of people dying because their M16/M4s jammed. In fact, I think around 2005-2006 there was a report of a massive firefight in a providence in Afghanistan notorious for the sticky sand which would adhere to rifles. They reported firing more than 1000 rounds of ammunition and only one jam occurred which was cleared by racking the bolt. The AKs are the badass, indestructible rifle that can be slung through water, shit, mud, blood, sand, you name it, and still fire. I will give this to the Russian and the many American AKs, but the problem with this is that many AKs are made by crappy knock-off companies that have next to no manufacturing tolerances. It's like how out of an entire fanbase, there's one asshole, but backwards. -The Wood/Steel construction on the AK is not stronger. The AR is made of aircraft grade aluminum and extremely high impact polymer. Aircraft undergo many more stresses in air than a rifle goes through in a soldiers hands, so it would be a pretty good idea to use the same metals, right? AR>>AK Anytime. Anywhere. Period. Countries that can afford the AR, use it. Countries that can't, use the AK.

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          • confirmed russia trying to spread freedom and democracy over fascist ukraine kebabs

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          • The m4 is shit ak are better especially the new 5.56 ones.

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            • Edited by codmoh: 8/1/2014 11:44:38 AM
              That's an AK. Edit - oh.... [i]that[/i] gun... weird.

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            • Edited by Simseo: 8/1/2014 11:23:41 AM
              Yet your ability to get to orbit depends on Russia. And your nuclear plants. It's not like they've got plenty of guns, whereas you haven't got plenty of rockets or nuclear fuel. You sure did win lol

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            • They can use all the M4s they want but we still have the superior aircraft.

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              • Edited by ArtooFeva: 8/1/2014 5:15:53 AM
                World War III! Operation: TAKE! BACK! OUR! GUNS! War is afoot gentleman. Now let's get some redneck gun guys together and -blam!- some Russian shit up!

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                • They got guns and stuff but I'm not on anyone's side I just hope there's no war

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                • On a more important matter; That guy in the background is wearing a fking jack skellington patch.

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                • GLORY BE TO STONER, GOD OF THE SUPERIOR DIRECT IMPINGEMENT! Piston lovers of Kalashnikov be damned to the fire!

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                • Suck it Stalin; we won.

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                • Our aircraft carriers are still bigger.

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                  • M416 > M4 Russia is just getting our scraps

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                      • War is a business FIRST, tell me 1 war that wasn't over money?

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