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SexBots: A step forward or backwards?

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[spoiler]I'm fully aware 90% of the flood isn't mature enough to discuss or read this. Hopefully the howling of those chimps will keep this bumped long enough for the people who are to see it.[/spoiler] In my ongoing effort to write threads that make people from every viewpoint cringe, today I ask you about SexBots. The time when convincing androids begin appearing in our world is fast approaching; watch [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ySljCcnq4o]this[/url] if you want to lose your shit. As with all things, we must address the three most pressing concerns that arise whenever humanity encounters a new entity: 1) Can it kill us? 2) Can we kill it? 3) Can we have sex with it? While the first two are still a matter of debate, the answer to the third question is undoubtedly yes, at least in some form. Since time immemorial, humanity has constructed a variety of tools to aide in the achieving of orgasm, including artificial phallus', fleshlights, and the internet. We, in this time, may be privileged to be the humans that witness the birth of technology that can completely emulate the sex act. This would have a variety of philosophical implications, but the one that the general public is most likely to have the relevant background for is how it will affect our gender politics. Now, let's get the ugly stereotypes out of the way first: yes, this would finally give the basement dweller the hyper-submissive waifu he's always dreamed of, and it would finally give the over-bearing pop-feminist the man with so little free-will that he literally is little more than a walking dildo. There, got it out of your system? Of course not; that's what the reply button is for. When I see the "gender war," I see a lot of people (from [i]all[/i] genders) use it as a place to vent frustration about the courtship process. A lot of these complaints center around the distinction between individuals that enter relationships only for sex, and those that enter for deeper relationships. What if the two never had to mix again? Could technology do that? Should it? The closest example we have is porn. On one hand, it's considered to be a release for sexual urges, possibly giving potential sex criminals a means of release that doesn't directly hurt anyone. On the other hand, some studies have shown that more violent porn can desensitize viewers to violence against women/"receivers". There are a host of other benefits and dis-benefits, many of which have been discussed here already. The thing that makes SexBots a fundamentally different problem than Porn is their potential to [i]completely replace[/i] human sexual contact for non-breeding or non-intimate purposes. Humans are made from replicable materials, the actions we take and thoughts we have during sex are not exactly the most complex we're capable of, and our imagination outpaces our abilities in this area anyway. The thought that we may one day replicate this act through technology is not that outlandish to me. [b][i]If this happens[/b][/i], there will undoubtedly be a societal shift with regards to how we view sex. Upon extended consideration, I can't determine with confidence what that shift will be, so I encourage you to post suggestions. In fact, upon writing this, I realized this is much more complicated than I originally believed. I guess my question splits into several parts: Will humanity allow one of it's greatest driving forces to be delegated to machines? Will we still be able to advance without this driving force (the hedonist problem)? Will gender politics become healthier if carnal urges are removed from the equation? Would carnal urges be removed from the equation? Will the net effect of this change be a beneficial or detrimental to humanity? Personally, I'm not really sure about any of these.
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  • I have to get to work, so I can't give a full response right now. I'll leave you with this, however. [i]I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time... to die[/i]
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    • If they are anything like this I wouldn't mind at all.
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      • Not sure if already posted in this thread.
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        • There are already devices which emulate sexual pleasure. Until there is an Android which can feel the bitter-sweet rush of human emotion, Until man becomes as God to a new race, Until a computer sheds tears, Until a machine feels pain, Until Robots can love, [i]Until they bite The Apple[/i], A sexbot cannot suffice.
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          • My only worry is that as humans we will become so secular in our relationships that interpersonal communication will be entirely filtered by technology. The ability to talk and hold a conversation In person with even the most benign of technology, even if it was intended to bring us together..... Examples of this are people choosing to text than call eliminating the use of the vocal chord. Texting communication is also not a true as actual vocal exchanges between individuals. In voice communication there is an obvious cadence to your tone which relays your true emotions and feelings toward the other person, communication via text has no vocal clues to a persons feelings and as such many people can have longer than natural time to respond to a idea, or pretend to be someone they are not.... Then when the individuals engage in verbal communication the conversation often becomes awkward and slow. This is a technology designed to help interconnect ourselves and in turn has put a damper on our social capabilities. I feel that a "Sex robot" would be catastrophic over its induction into our society will have detrimental effects on our social and communication skills. This is due to it replacing such a carnal need that is hard wired into our DNA to reproduce. In effect I fear it might lead to the path were reproduction is strictly controlled due to us being so connected with technology that we are no connected with each other..... This reminds me of the term "Chivalry is dead" where we do things in our current society that would not have only abhorred our ancestors a mere 100-200 years ago, but were unthinkable. They could not possibly imagine how much our world would change.... And us along with it.
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          • Human first contact regulations 1) Assume Hostility 2) See if we can have sex with it.
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          • [i]I am programmed for your pleasure. Please assume the position.[/i]
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          • Too much Fallout?
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          • Yay! I finally get my dream of having sex with a robot! ^_^
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          • I wouldn't be surprised if those weirdo Japanese are already developing sex bots.
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          • That video was astounding. I wonder if an android can develop emotions as well, it seemed like that one in the video acknowledged the meaning of the word friend.
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          • We already have a sex machine right here .
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              I'm surprised you didn't add this.
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              • Wow. You know, I get so used to the kind of stuff that's usually posted here, that when an OP brings up a point (and not even just pasting a link with a "oh my god" description), it really blows me away. Have you ever thought of doing a YouTube channel? I know this is off topic (pun not intended) but given the way that you wrote this particular thread, your writing skills and ability to not only bring up an issue, but also add statistics, your opinion, others, and also manage to leave it somewhat open-ended was really quite magnificent. Bravo, sir, and, not that it matters, but you have earned yourself a follower.
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                • Jesus Christ, that video was creepy. I don't think I would be able to let intelligent robots like that exist. If you need a robot to blam! with then you may have some sort of psychological issue. This scenario reminds me of the movie [i]I, Robot[/i].
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                • It will be the exact same thing that happened with mobile phones, the internet and social media. Some will be pro, some will be anti and others will see the merit of both sides. On a side note, we may finally breed out idiots.
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                • Are they even a step at all? Or just a more complicated way to masturbate?
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                • Edited by delta: 8/19/2013 4:22:40 AM
                  I'd prefer to step forwards into one than backwards onto one, if thats what you're asking? but OT I had an image of the future where we all have sexbots and a man disgustedly says to a women: "You want me to put it[i]where[/i]?!?!?! That is so unhygienic"
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                • Don't date robots!
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                • I read the whole thing, but I seriously have no opinion on this. Let people do what they want, this allows them to do so, making this a step forward.
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                  • Overall. I think its a good a thing. Should reduce -blam!- and molestation cases, not to mention be a dream come true for otaku's. However, with proper Government regulation, things wouldn't go out of hand. People will always want to seek meaning relationships with others.
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                  • Neither. It will just be a thing, and it will be remembered as a nerd's release.
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                    • If it keeps the rapists and idiots off the street then it's a step forward.
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                    • *would prefer to have sex with a real woman*
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