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5/26/2013 2:03:48 PM
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You are aware that xbone's ddr3 is slightly less powerful than the ps4 gddr5 right?
And you do know that an APU/GPGPU architecture, like the one on sony's console, uses significantly less energy, thus granting more possible overclock if confronted with the more traditional CPU-GPU architecture in microsoft's machine?
Sorry dude, but on paper Destiny won't be the same on ps4 and xbone.
Not hating Xbox or anything. I actually hoped for better competition this gen, but Microsoft chose to grab more consumers by underpowering the console in favor of a higher number of gimmicks that they hope will attract more non gamers.
The xbox one will probably outsell ps4 in the US. But the majority of it's adopters won't be gamers. They are reaching out to the much more bigger and general household public.
If you want a gamer's console. Xbox one is not the choice.
If you want to stick with it because you love the brand you are doing the right thing.
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Xbox Is a better gaming console than the Playstations. One reason being that Xbox has a bigger community. Another reason being Gameplay and experience in games is a lot better. yes, you have to pay for Live but you see why they do that because PSN was hacked... Twice.
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Yeah on paper they are different but let's be real, both will be incredible compared to the games we're used to and will be a delight to play
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If it comes down to GPU than IGN has stated that the PS4's GPU is gonna have 1120 cores while the Xbox Ones GPU is gonna have 720 cores. Feel free to correct me cause I feel that I might be.
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It's actually all about teraflop count. Ps4=1.84 XboXone=1.23 But honestly, optimisation does miracles.
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Thats not an enormous difference. I guess what its gonna come down to now is which console your gamer bros are gonna go for
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That's a huge difference!!!!! It's like comparing an HD5970 with a HD5850.
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While I agree with some if what you said, you are mislead on some rather important points. Yes the PS4 has better RAM, no one will deny that. But right now with everything we know about the consoles, the developers can't use that extra power. Everything else won't support the extra power that RAM can provide. So the fact that it has better RAM means nothing, console developers with the other hardware can't use that extra power. So as of now, you pay for something you can't entirely use. Even if they could; RAM is not near the most important piece of info gamers care about. It's all about GPU and CPU. Whoever has the better GPU and CPU should "theoretically" win the console war. So the whole argument about RAM is invalid to both parties.
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Well it actually isn't only the Ram. Sony's AMD APU is far more efficient than microsoft's traditional CPU-gpu setup, the ps4's Bluray drive is a 27mb/s while the Xbox one's is an old 12mb/s ( I'm guessing that's why Microsoft needs mandatory installs). And going back to the ram...combining an 8 gig gddr5 ram isn't only giving it ram, it's also, and most importantly, VRAM. And, Microsoft will actually be giving you 5 gigs of ddr3 because the OS will have a fixed 3gb in use in order to make kinect always ready to function as soon as you ask it to. Sony has stated theirs will take up 1-1,5gb of memory...so much for the 3 OSs huh!?! The difference between the amount of stream data that the 2 consoles will be able to handle is quite noticeable. Yes, you won't see a lot of difference in the first games. But after 2 years the gap between the two pieces of hardware will undoubtably get wider. Microsoft is well aware of that. But it isn't counting on impressing you and me. It counts on impressing the middle aged man that would have never bought an Xbox in the first place and that now might let his kids have a go at gaming, since the console doesn't only do that but acts as a media control centre for the whole living room. As I said, they will sell a lot more, they will have a lot of exclusives, but nothing comparable to what you saw last gen.
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Well it actually isn't only the Ram. Sony's AMD APU is far more efficient than microsoft's traditional CPU-gpu setup, the ps4's Bluray drive is a 27mb/s while the Xbox one's is an old 12mb/s ( I'm guessing that's why Microsoft needs mandatory installs). And going back to the ram...combining an 8 gig gddr5 ram isn't only giving it ram, it's also, and most importantly, VRAM. And, Microsoft will actually be giving you 5 gigs of ddr3 because the OS will have a fixed 3gb in use in order to make kinect always ready to function as soon as you ask it to. Sony has stated theirs will take up 1-1,5gb of memory...so much for the 3 OSs huh!?! The difference between the amount of stream data that the 2 consoles will be able to handle is quite noticeable. Yes, you won't see a lot of difference in the first games. But after 2 years the gap between the two pieces of hardware will undoubtably get wider. Microsoft is well aware of that. But it isn't counting on impressing you and me. It counts on impressing the middle aged man that would have never bought an Xbox in the first place and that now might let his kids have a go at gaming, since the console doesn't only do that but acts as a media control centre for the whole living room. As I said, they will sell a lot more, they will have a lot of exclusives, but nothing comparable to what you saw last gen.
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You're misunderstanding quite a few things here. 1) None of this has been confirmed, it's all speculation. 2) GDDR5 ram is better at some tasks and worse at others. It is not straight better across the board as you're implying. It has higher bandwidth, but it also has higher latency. 3) the rumored CPU/APU of both consoles is supposedly virtually identical.
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1) it's all been confirmed post xboxone presentation by Microsoft execs, Major Nelson and developers. 2) Gddr5 handles next gen programming in a much more efficient way. Burst of data (ddr3) Vs constant streaming (Gddr5) is where all the industry has been going since the first APU's. 3) No, the Ps4 uses a semi-custom 8-core AMD x86-64 CPU based on the upcoming A10 6800k (HD8660). The xboxone uses an 8 core custom CPU with an integrated on board GPU based on the AMD Gcn architecture (HD7660) The teraflop count isn't an opinion, it's a calculable fact. Don't fool yourself by saying you would mount 5gb ddr3 instead of an integrated 8gb of gddr5. As I said though....it's all a matter of optimisation, but hardware wise, the ps4 is far more competitive than xboxone.
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1) No. 2) No. 3) No. None of this has been confirmed. The GPU, CPU, and RAM - all of it is rumor. What do we actually know at this point? Number of cores for the GPUS (not clock cycles, not efficiency, nothing elsE). What do we know about the CPUs? Number of cores (Don't know clock speed or model it's based off of. What do we know about the ram? DDR3 vs GDDR5 (which is based off of DDR3. We don't know clock speed or latency, which are both important). ANYTHING you read on any website that isn't microsoft.com or sony.com (or their subsidiaries) or shown in their presentations or talks, should be treated as rumor at this point. Neither company has confirmed half of what you've said they have. And again, for the record GDDR5 IS NOT better at all tasks, it is better at tasks that require large amounts of data to be transfered (good for textures), but bad at transfering things that are time-sensitive (such as physics, tracking, etc.). They both have pros and cons.
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The clock for both types of rams is purely exquisite at this point. The only thing consoles need is high bandwidth streaming. Not to mention that the xboxone's Bluray is an old 12mb/s while the ps4 will sport the new 27mb/s, obviously Sony as one of the major BR founder and backer would have never let MS such privilege, thus explaining the obligated installs on MS' machine. Anyways not trying to bash neither console. Ps4 has some flaws also. The choice for a less singlethreading oriented CPU won't let Sony take advantage of 4K technology as Microsoft will probably be able to do instead. Plus a second CPU for multitask downloading might limit the over clock possibilities of the GPGPU on the machine due to high internal temps. -this is speculation though what I wrote before is not.
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AMD has presented the Jaguar kabini and temash CPUs and has already announced their respective implementation as base platform for ps4 and xboxone consoles to shareholders. They also specified that the 8 core APUs are different in form as specified before. So have Sony and Microsoft both in a post conference meeting with the press. Believe all you want. I don't get my info exclusively from IGN and won't be surprised when the specs will be fully described at E3. Neither companies have denied these comments from their representatives and partners, they cannot do so because they are true and would risk a market manipulation flag. Especially in the EU where false and tendentious statements regarding market related operations are seriously and severely punished.
