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4/3/2013 9:13:02 PM
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Pedophilia is a sexual orientation under CA's bill.

[quote]California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person’s sexual orientation. That doesn’t sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well. Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality. The bill calls on states to prohibit efforts to change a minor’s sexual orientation, even if the minor requests it, saying that doing so is “dangerous and harmful.” The text of the legislation doesn’t specifically ban “gay” conversion therapy. Instead, it prohibits attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation. “Sexual orientation change efforts’ means any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation,” the bill says. Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that, “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation.” However, the Democrats defeated the amendment. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality. “This language is so broad and vague, it arguably could include all forms of sexual orientation, including pedophilia,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s not just the orientation that is protected—the conduct associated with the orientation is protected as well.”[/quote] I knew it.
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  • So a minor can have his or her sex changed, but not his or her sexual orientation? wut.

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    • California needs to follow in its brother Atlantis's footsteps and sink to the bottom of the ocean already. People like this are why nutjobs are so afraid of Gay Marriage, you can't really say "Slippery Slope argument will never happen!" when SHIT LIKE THIS is happening. Pedophilia is disgusting, immoral, sick, and should be treated as such.

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      • It really is a relief that pedophiles are being accepted. It's about time. Like honestly, it is about -blam!-ing time.

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        Do people seriously not realize that this doesn't mean that there is any intention to change consent laws? This only prohibits practices that try to change a persons internal feelings because latent feelings like attraction cannot be altered and attempting to do so creates strong senses of shame and guilt in the person treated. This does not ban any kind of counseling that helps people cope and deal with those emotions, only those that try to change them. Like it or not pedophiles are human too and can't help their feelings, only do what they can to avoid acting on them. There is no slippery slope here that will lead to child relations ever becoming legal.

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      • A few decades ago, a lot of the things that are being said about pedophilia were said about homosexuality.

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        • I already hate this state..... so much. Now I hate it even more.

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        • [b]WHAT?!?!?!?[/b]

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        • When a bunch of liberals run a state, you get a shit hole like CA.

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          • People can think whatever they want. It's their actions that make a difference.

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          • This is very interesting indeed.

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          • And still I continue to laugh at California.

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          • I'm extremely confused here.

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          • I never understood what was wrong with pedophilia to be honest. Just because you find kids attractive doesn't make you a bad person. And if you do happen to touch a kid, so what? It's not like it's a big deal to either party.

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            • How is pedophilia an "alternative sexual lifestyle" when it is illegal to have relations with minors? This is beyond -blam!-ed up...

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              • Well sounds about right. Still illegal to act on that particular orientation.

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              • It's called a struggle snuggle for a reason.

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              • This is why I revoked my political party affiliation. I do not condone stupidity. This is stupid, and they are losing my vote as a result.

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                • Finally. If you are attracted to the same sex, whats stopping someone from being attracted to little kids. Or dogs? Or cows? People are allowed to be attracted to whatever they like. And it should be recognized as a sexual orientation. You liberals can either have it all or have none. No discriminating.

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                  • Edited by God: 4/3/2013 10:39:36 PM
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                    From a purely biological standpoint pedophilia is hardly different from homosexuality or a fetish as well, so technically it is correct. The only difference comes down to the act, gay people can give consent so the act of homosexual relations has no victim, but children and animals cannot so having intimate relations with them inherently -blam!-. Frankly I feel nothing but pity for them, since they have to live with urges that they cannot act on without hurting another. Doesn't mean I'm forgiving when they give in to those urges and ignore the rights of others mind you. And that's minding the fact that the bill doesn't actually say that.

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                  • Question, what's the difference between a sexual fetish and sexual orientation?

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                    • Edited by coolmike699: 4/3/2013 10:19:29 PM
                      That sounds like bullshit, so I did a little research and found this: [quote]“Sexual orientation change efforts” does not include psychotherapies that: (A) provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients or the facilitation of clients’ coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, including sexual orientation-neutral interventions to prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices; and (B) do not seek to change sexual orientation."[/quote] [url=http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201120120SB1172]From the text of the bill itself.[/url] Pedophilia is not considered a sexual orientation. Don't fall victim to liars.

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                      • Nothing wrong with being attracted to kids.

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                        • I've waited for this moment all my life. I mean, I really only have a thing for 16-17 year old girls specifically. I'm only 21 so I shouldn't be looked down upon!

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                          • well, I suppose it really is no different from any other fetish as long as they don't actually go out and molest kids. It's still pretty twisted though, and if they do molest a child they deserve nothing less than death.

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                          • How biased...

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