[u]Liberal view on abortion:[/u] Women can do it. They don't have to do it. But they can. [u]Conservative view on abortion:[/u] Women CANNOT do it. Thus forcing their view on society and everyone in it. [u]Liberal view on gay marriage:[/u] Gays can do it. You don't have to gay-marry. But [i]they[/i] can. [u]Conservative view on gay marriage:[/u] Gays CANNOT do it. Thus forcing their view on society and all the gays in it. [u]Liberal view on marijuana:[/u] People can smoke it. You don't have to smoke it. But people can if they want. [u]Conservative view on marijuana:[/u] NOBODY can smoke it. Thus forcing their view on society and everyone in it.

[quote] The Republican view is always generalized as if we want to force our views onto society. As a whole this is not the case.[/quote] [quote]In fact, liberals are the ones who want to do so.[/quote] And just like any other form of politics this sounds like nothing more than "he said, she said.". Your way of presenting your opinions could use some work. : /

Ah, no. We have seen a number of GOP states that have tried to enforce laws/amendments in Northern states both historically, and now. Civil War? Southern states threatened to secede because the North was refusing to adopt slavery amendments. Then protesting bullshit that the North denied them state rights, when they were the ones trying to enforce/create an amendment, under threat of secession. Civil Rights movement? Southern states tried to push for Jim Crow laws, and got butthurt when the North said that they couldn't do that, both in the North, and in their own states. Gay Rights movement? [b]Same shit different day.[/b] Mostly southern states protesting about state rights, under the cover of bullshit rights denial for the LGBT community. Trying to overturn Row vs Wade ruling, trying to ban gay marriage on a federal level (Romney) etc. Yes, you do want to force your views onto society. Just like how a sizable group of Americans wants to force creationism into schools. Don't fall back on the "we don't generalize!",[b] that's what everyone does, [/b]and the GOP has a major history of doing so. That's the whole concept of "federal" law.

[quote]*sigh* How exactly is anti abortion against womens rights. [/quote] Can't abort because the government says so? Denying a right. [quote] What right does a women, or anyone, have to end the life of an unborn child. [/quote] The fact that it is in her womb, and it occurs naturally anyway? [quote] Dont even bother answering because you know its immoral. [/quote] So is forcing someone to have a kid they don't want. Think about what happens after she gives birth. The child will be neglected, it may also ruin the life of the person involved. You are the immoral one. [quote] I dont intend to treat anyone as second class citizens either. [/quote] By being against gay marriage, you are treating them like second class citizens. [quote] They can have the full legal and economic benefit, but I refuse to have my values become second class to their misguided view on life, [/quote] So your values define who can and cannot marry? Who is the one forcing the view again? Also, misguided? You do realize that being gay is noticed in animals, and is also a natural thing? [quote] Finally, Im pretty sure everyone wants to keep guns away from mentally disturbed people. But liberals dont want anyone to own guns. [/quote] Not really. People can have guns here in New Zealand, even with strict gun laws. Just use it for sporting/practice, don't bring it into the general public's domain. [quote] Please, stop this crap you keep throwing around.[/quote] You first.

[quote]How exactly is anti abortion against womens rights. What right does a women, or anyone, have to end the life of an unborn child. Dont even bother answering because you know its immoral[/quote]By putting the rights of a fetus [who isn't a legal citizen] above that of an adult [who is a legal citizen] you're infringing upon her right to do what she wants with her body. I personally hate abortion and would never want to go through it, but I wont deny someone the ability to have the procedure done by a professional in a safe environment if they decide it's the right course of action for them. [quote] I dont intend to treat anyone as second class citizens either[/quote]By denying same-sex couples the benefits that their hetero counterparts enjoy, you are. [quote] They can have the full legal and economic benefit, but I refuse to have my values become second class to their misguided view on life, but I will not personally force my views onto them.[/quote]How would your values change at all? Their marriage doesn't change your marriage in the slightest. Your marriage would still be just as special as it was before same-sex couples were treated as people. [quote] Finally, Im pretty sure everyone wants to keep guns away from mentally disturbed people. But liberals dont want anyone to own guns.[/quote]What liberal congressmen are suggesting we confiscate firearms? I'll completely change my argument if you can find even one. [quote]Please, stop this crap you keep throwing around.[/quote] You're the one throwing around crap; I'm just calling you on your bullshit.

you say you will not treat them as second class citizens and in the next sentence call their view of life misguided.How is that NOT treating them like second class citizens?It does not appear you have any values or really shit ones because all i hear from you is its all about me and how you feel which is bullshit because you are not the only person on Earth. Your values mean nothing if they directly cause inequality. Anti abortion is anti choice and you basically have decided you value something that is not even alive yet or a human being. You basically have decided that if something were to go wrong you value some unborn speck over an human being with feelings and emotions.I am glad your point of view is meaningless and even if some Bullshit in regards to it passed it would be struck down because of its illegality and sheer stupidity.