Iggyhopper originally posted something similar to this [url=http://www.bungie.net/en-US/View/community/Forum/Post?id=5863802]here[/url], and I wanted to expand upon the idea.
The tag system has been a welcomed addition to Bungie.next and I'm making great use of it; however, I've found that more users are having trouble finding where their topic should be and what they should follow to find the most activity. Imagine that you have a Red Lego brick, but you have to split it into 4 buckets based on color, shape, size, and set, instead of just putting it in the bucket labeled "Red". Thus, you end up with dozens of buckets instead of just a few. While the search option certainly aids this process, I feel that the tags still lack a cohesive structure once seen under defined forums, which in turn leads to ambiguity and redundancy.
[u][b]The Problem[/b][/u]
"#Cartoons", "#Politics", "#Music", and "#Computers" all fall under the "Off Topic" description, yet topics with that content can be scattered across "#OffTopic", "Flood", "TheFlood", or even just labelled with one tag. All users cannot be expected to properly tag posts, which means threads end up spread across the forum, thus splitting activity. Half of the Community forum is one way, half is another. Half of The Flood is one way, a quarter is somewhere else, and another quarter has disappeared. The thing is though, most haven't actually left, but are rather spread thin due to the ambiguity and lack of clear structure among the tags.
[b][u]The Solution Part 1 - Tag Groups (sub-forums)[/b][/u]
One way to solve this issue is to group related tags together. This effectively creates sub-forums by condensing all of the aforementioned 'sub-tags' under one official "Off-Topic" primary group.
[quote][b]Examples:[/b]
[u]Gaming:[/u] [i]#Gaming[/i]; #Halo; #Skyrim; #GTA; #Xbox; #PlayStation; #WiiU; etc
[u]Community:[/u] [i]#Community[/i]; #Penthalon; #Bungie #MailSack #Septagon, #Help; etc.
[u]Off Topic:[/u] [i]#OffTopic[/i]; #Music; #Movies; #Politics; #Jokes; #Cartoons; #Cars; #Advice; etc.
[u]Feedback:[/u] [i]#Feedback[/i]; #BungieNext; #BnetBugs; etc.
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Iggyhopper's Tab concept (originally expanded upon in this thread) serves to organize official tag groups so that each set of related tags is easily accessible.
[b][u]The Solution Part 2 - Automatic Tag Suggestions[/b][/u]
Again, all users cannot be expected to know how to tag properly, which is where Automatic Tag Suggestions come into play. These will be official tags used to sort a post into a 'sub-forum' by default, which is then further sorted by the "related trending tags" you can follow (#Cartoons, #Politics, #Music, etc., which all fall under "Off-Topic"). This system requires users pick an official tag when they make a thread, and they then have the option of describing it further (though it's not an issue so long as it's under the right primary tag).
[b][u]The Solution Part 3 - Sort Forum by Tag[/b][/u]
If I want to see #Politics threads, I will go into the Off-Topic Tag Group and then "Sort by #Politics". This way, tags are no longer taking responsibility of "Forums", but rather are used to describe topics. I can still follow tags and I will not have to see tags that I'm not interested in; however, the difference with this system is that tags are linked together.
This sort of automated structuring is necessary to enhance both the efficiency and convenience of the Bungie forums. It can help reduce redundancy, organize topics, and get users to exactly where they need to go twice as fast.
Thanks for reading, and please share your support and any other ideas you have to make Bungie.next more accessible for all.
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Still trying to get used to it, im not a twitter guy so im blundering in the dark. Also I noticed you you mad ea tag out of your own name. Do most people do that and why?
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Alternatively, they could bring back the old forum setup, and have people have to create a topic in these specific forums. Afterwards, [b][i]AFTERWARDS[/i][/b], before submitting the topic, they can tag the topic and we can all use this hashtag system as the advanced search bar that it truly is.
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I think it's safe to say that Bungie delivered. Way to go guys!
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Ah, so the solution for the lack of forums is, surprisingly, bringing back forums.............. Good thread anyway.
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GROUPING TAGGING STYLE
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Edited by j0sh291: 1/24/2013 2:17:01 AMI would like something with "Solution 1" combined with "Solution 2".
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I think this is a great idea, be easier to navigate.
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I rewrote the OP to better reflect what I wanted initially. The concept images need no longer apply at this point.
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Edited by Ockeghem: 1/23/2013 9:36:15 PMI appreciate the thought you put into this, but I am unsure how this is different from the hashtag bar on the side...except these are on the top and called tabs. For example, everything you put under your #gaming tab, people are already going to tag all of those things as #gaming. So, click on your #gaming link and bam, there they all are. If you are looking for cross-referencing taggs, like #destiny + #universe, then you can type "#destiny #universe" in the search bar, and that does the trick. Now...if you are talking about an option that would do something like "show all posts with #universe OR #community," that I could get behind. [b]What I really want is a negative tag filter, e.g. a way to remove all #offtopic from my feed (in one click) so I can just see what's left.[/b] In fact, I may start a topic on that.
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The design looks ugly, I like more the Bungie design.
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I love it! Please look into it, Bungie.
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BUNGIE DO IT NAO pl0x
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AGREE!!!
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This idea crossed my mind when .next was first unveiled and I do think it would work great. It would be nice if it would automatically tag corresponding to whichever tab you're viewing too. (I'm bad at remembering tags)
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I like this idea. It provides a sort of middle ground between a single mass of topics and sub forums. I wih this was implemented.
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Edited by Avants Garde: 1/23/2013 8:55:42 AMI made some mockup like this. The tabs were above the "Sort by" thing.
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Go fuck a duck.
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Tag Tabs... Why on Earth not?
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Tabs would help so much; it's a bit chaotic as is.
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Edited by G7kherc: 1/23/2013 7:37:11 AMMy threads on it............MY GLORY!!!...MY FAME!!!
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I believe we call these "Sub Forums" goat. i just want the "Community Forum" and "The Flood" to come back.
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Good idea better than hashtags.
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I quite like the idea of official tabs instead of a dropdown - everything would be alot quicker to navigate. The last tab could be 'search tags' to give unofficial tags/forums a proper space for easy navigation too
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Eh just put the old forums back and keep the other new stuff I guess.
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I think they would be best if they were on the side under "Explore Topics." You would have to click "Bungie Forums" or whatever, and then a drop down list would appear for the old forums.
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Anything that is going to make this place more like a forum....