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Should humanity colonize Luna or Mars first

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  • Edited by A 3 Legged Goat: 1/25/2013 10:04:15 PM
    Luna is closer and thus less expensive; however, having no atmosphere, no magnetic field, and no water means it is unlikely to serve as more than a spaceport in the long run. That's not a bad thing though considering the wealth of resources it has. As Recon said, it's essentially a space platform waiting for us.

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  • I'd colonize that.

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    • Realistically, Luna. It's easier to maintain a line of supplies to 'n fro' than with Mars. It'll further test our capabilities of living outside of the Earth, and will show us how to operate on these lands. Mars just seems to be a step further than that honestly.

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    • Titan or Europa after we discover water on them.

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      • One block lifts the other, luna is the obvious choice.

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      • to be honest, if we did do it, i would think mars first.. mostly because theres nothing on the moon

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      • Edited by Solis Argentum: 1/20/2013 9:13:12 PM
        We are capable of colonizing both. However Luna would be the first choice. Why? If one were to colonize Mars first, it would be tedious to arrange the journey. You'd need enough food supplies to last for a few months for the journey from Earth to Mars, as well as people patient enough for said journey, and also enough for the return. Then you'd have to start stocking up for the demands needed by those who are colonized already. You'd also need to prepare on how to deal with the space effects such as degrading bones, going to the toilet, even drinking liquids because of the Zero-G environment. While the drinks and toilets (Albeit not comfortable) can be quickly dealt with, there is nothing to nulify the effects of bone degration. Hell, how would gravity control be managed in a colonized ship? You'd need to be able to find a way for people to walk around without helplessly floating about. Magnetizing the ship itself or wearing magnetized boots would solve the problem though. And that's only for the journey. Dealing with Mars' atmosphere is a whole different thing altogether. An effective biological zone would need to be set up beforehand to help deal with the mostly carbon atmosphere. At that initial stage only a select few would be able to be allowed to descend down onto the planet to help develop it's atmosphere, discover sources of water, filter them, set up a biosphere etc. Hell people could be waiting decades on the colonizing ship as it would effectively be a mobile living area, and supplies would be needed to be sent to the ship, including upgrades, power, food, workforce, etc. It would be a huge undertaking and would cost huge amounts of billions. Luna can be seen as a more scientific post for those out of orbit. The benefits Luna could pose to the science community because of it's cycle could be as simple as discovering how it really effects the earth, and also because of it's rotation it could be used as a launch post for other space journeys. Colonizing the dark side would be even more effective as it's directly launching away from Earth afterwards. The short distance also means that the journeys would be shorter. The fact that a low population (Maybe a few million perhaps) would cost less to handle due to delivery times, etc. While Luna has effectively no atmosphere to breath in, this would mean that the planet would be a strictly "Inside-Building" approach. Building underground could also lead to discovery of ore veins, seeing as the basalt make-up of Luna's craters are iron rich, could lead to a trading industry for industrial purposes. There would however, need to be a constant oxygen source for the inhabitants, so that would mean you'd need transport methods for huge quantities of water or ice that can be easily evaporated into breathable air without dissipating off the moon- which is why the strictly inside-building methods would be necessary. The costs would also be far less than it would compared to a colonizing attempt at Mars, and could also act as a try-test beforehand.

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        • Moon makes more sense. Then use it as the base to launch other missions.

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          • Colonize Mars, turn the moon into a amusement park.

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          • Luna closer=less time/money spent on space travel

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          • The moon is closer. So...

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          • Mars. The moon is kind of useless unless you plan to mine there. Then again I'm pretty sure there's already a moon colony because of WWII.

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            • I'd say Luna; it's smaller so therefore we can colonize it faster and cheaper.

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            • Time to Colonise the sun IMO.

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            • We should colonize Uranus.

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              • It depends on which is better for humanity to develop and grow easily. The whole reason of colonizing is to move elsewhere to continue thriving, but to thrive we need the resources. And, at the moment, we'll be taking resources with us. It truly depends on which one is suited best for adopting our human natures and how conforming the land is with the human condition. The Moon may be closer, which is easier to reach, but is the atmosphere suitable for releasing oxygen for terraforming? Mars has carbon dioxide, and frankly there's too much there - so much so that the air is unbreathable. Are we going to end up living like goldfish in oxygen-filled tanks, or should we simply save the Earth? If technology allows us, I would prefer to colonize Mars first as there is more room for mankind to thrive.

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              • The Moon is closer, and thus should be the first place we colonize and experiment with. Timescales would be much shorter than you'd have when dealing with Mars, and should emergencies occur, Earthbound or those already in Orbit around Earth can assist far faster than should a SNAFU happen on the surface of Mars.

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              • Venus is actually our best bet to start a colonization. 50 kilometres/31 miles above the surface is a perfect place to place some floating cities. Yes, I'm serious.

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                • Luna, for the energy.... though, that would cause a war.

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                • Mars, what use would colonizing Luna give us?

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                  • On the moon, we can have these.

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                  • Neither. There is no point.

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                    • But this one movie told me that all of the moon's rocks are actually sentient. It'd be a bad idea to stop there. I vote we colonize the sun.

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                    • Yeah, the moon first. The moon has resources we can use.

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                    • Edited by Frost: 1/20/2013 11:07:30 PM
                      Assuming we ever leave Earth, Luna would make a good in-between for Earth and Mars. Although, I don't understand why we don't finish exploring our own planet first, before we find a new one to ruin.

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                      • The moon because it's the closet. The moon can be our first baby steps to mars and then mars can be the bigger step to other planets and moons. Also it would be easier to launch from. Because it doesn't have an atmosphere like Earth. So it would take less fuel to launch from.

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