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Edited by Ray: 1/20/2024 3:35:22 AM
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How To Survive The Coil. From An Elitist

I’m a solo elitist who usually does coil alone, but lately I’ve been doing it with teams to see how they play. Man…it’s shocking the amount of players who just flat out don’t understand the mechanics, or how to even play effectively. Below is a list of each pathway (order changes weekly but its always the same 4), and how to complete it without trouble: -[b][i]DIVINING HALL[/i][/b]: this is scorn related, so put on your “from whence you came” artifact perk before anything, since it boosts your ability damage against Scorn and Taken. First room is either one of 2 things: 1)kill ads then kill the abomination 3x 2kill ads then kill the chieftains The abomination portion is straight forward. Literally kill ads then kill the abomination. The chieftain, however, is different. You must kill all ads (reach 100%) and then 3 torchbearers spawn. If you kill one, it drops a buff. [b][i]You must pick up the buff in order to damage the chieftain’s shield. The buff stacks up to 3x and the more buffs you have, the more damage you to do the shield[/i][/b]. The buff lasts 30 seconds and unless you go into the pool of light, you will die when the timer expires. The buff refreshes for each pick up. The chieftains have no health so it’s very easy to kill all 3 within 30 seconds [b]BOSS[/b]: You will see an abomination and a huge chieftain with shields. This encounter is very similar to the previous one. Kill the torchbearers, pick up the buffs, [b][i][u]kill the abomination first[/u][/i][/b], and then you’ll be able to damage the boss. The pool of light to cleanse you is right where the abomination was. The DPS phase is extremely long, but if your DPS isn’t high enough, the boss will regain the shield and you have to repeat the steps again -[b][i]FIRST STEPS QUEEN’S WRATH[/i][/b]: This is taken related. Keep that artifact perk on that allows you to do extra ability damage to taken, and also put taken specs on your weapons. First room is either 1 of 2 things: 1) Kill ads then kill the yellow bar knights 2) kill wizards to drop an orb that must be deposited Both are pretty straight forward and don’t need too much explanation beyond that. I will say during the orb portion, there is a final phase in which you have to kill a yellow bar centurion, along with a group of ads. Nothing hard [b]BOSS[/b]: as soon as you enter the room, you’ll see a huge Taken Orge with a shield, alongside a bunch of ads, and 3 yellow bar wizards. In order to remove the boss’ shield, you have to kill each wizard. These wizards should be the [b][u]main priority [/u][/b] as they are tanky and deal a lot of damage. You’ll also notice the wizards are usually in a pool of light. You’ll need to step in those every once in a while to refresh your debuff, or you’ll die from darkness. Once you remove the shield, you can damage the boss. Each chunk you take out of him spawns a group of ads and yellow bar centurion, but they aren’t anything tough. Once the boss gets to a little under half health, no more ads spawn and you can just go to town [b][i]SENSORIUM[/i][/b]: Vex Related. First room is 1 of 2 things: 1) Kill all the ads then kill the hydra 2) Kill ads, then use arc canister to shoot boxes that releases a boss taken ogre to be killed The hydra portion is pretty standard with no mechanics. Just be weary of chickens because there’s a bunch of them and they hurt The Taken Orge portion can be a bit hectic, as there’s nonstop ads ( including a bunch of orange bar vex. Yes, chickens) on top of the boxes you need to shoot with the canisters. In order to get canisters, you must kill the shiny orange bar Minotaurs. They drop the canisters that must be used to break the boxes. There are arc shielded harpies that can be annoying during this time as well, but the canisters are arc and that can help. Once all the boxes are open, the taken orge will be free for damage. Kill it and the ads and you’re done [b]BOSS[/b]: once you enter, it’s either going to be a shielded chicken or hydra. Both have the same mechanics during the fight which is similar to the last room you did. Kill the shiny Minotaurs, pick up their canister and shoot the boss with it to lower the shield. Once the shield is fully depleted, you can damage the boss. During damage phase, there’s a group of ads that spawn, including exploding supplicants. Be weary of them as they are the most dangerous thing besides the boss. The boss has 3 health gates on the health bar, and once you reach each of them, you get a message saying “detainment eminent”. [b][i][u]DO NOT GROUP UP WITH EACH OTHER DURING THIS TIME[/u][/i][/b], as you’ll each get detained and will need to break the detainment. If you’re grouped up, it’s very easy to wipe because the boss or ads can now you guys down. If your DPS is high enough, it’s possible to one phase, but if not, it’s shield will go back up and you have to do the process again -[b][i]FIRST STEPS SYCOPHANT[/i][/b]: Taken related. Get that artifact mod and taken specs on. First room is either one of 2 things: 1) Kill ads then kill yellow bars 2) Kill wizards that drop an orb that must be deposited This is literally the same as the other first step room and exact same mechanics [b]BOSS[/b]: the very same boss as the other first step room, it’s just a taken knight instead of Orge this time. Exact same mechanics as the other first step boss Congrats 🎉 You’ve now completed coil successfully. Enjoy the loot as it’s very generous, especially if you broke all the pots/collected glass and killed the glass collector

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  • ✅ Run in and die and use up all the lives Got it 👍

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    • I’m a recent “ the coil MM woes are completely exaggerated convert “. I’ve played very little this season. But I just ran through the story from start to finish over the weekend and I played the coil 3 times. One time I joined in on a group on the last path at the boss and got gold. The next two times I easily hit plat with randoms. Granted I’m running the stronghold/banner build which is OP but it’s also dogshit for certain enemy types as well. Maybe just luck but the general population definitely has it figured out

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    • I respect it. I still don't think, essentially creating a Raid lite was the right way to go for the majority of the playerbase in a seasonal activity. I've run solo, myself, but not to completion because I just can't warrant the time and frustration spent on it. Done it with others to phase three, before I just can't deal with it anymore, despite the rewards. I feel a seasonal activity should never have to be so involved that it needs, basically a Raid walkthrough for people, but here we are. I respect the hell out of your generous explanation though, and I hope it helps many people. This is what makes elitism better to stomach; the willingness to teach others. Its really what it should be utilized for, everywhere in life. Keep doing what you do.

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    • OP / Ray: thanks for sharing your insights; some good info for sure.👍 As a very ‘casual’ old ‘vanilla’-built armoured tortoise with decent but not fully optimised builds, and excellent weapons, I’ve done a few Coil runs as solo and in a mm team. Solo - I can usually make it to the final boss fight, but simply get overwhelmed by too many ads and a withering barrage of incoming rounds from all quarters. Tried it a few times on H / W / T - all ended the same. So, no more of that for me! ❌ MM Team - luck of the draw plays a big part in this; speedsters just go their own way regardless of the other player(s) needs, eg, cracking pots, getting chests, revives, etc. - and this usually ends in a negative result. Considerate Guardian teammates - these do exist, at all GR levels; and if one is lucky enough to be on their team, these are the best runs and the most rewarding - not just from the loot! ✅ Super-Guardians - usually high GR levels, with awesome super powers (helicopter gunship Strand Titan) that simply obliterates bosses in seconds! 🤔 I’ve seen a few of these, and put it down to a fully optimised build + a T Exotic that I’m unaware of?! These runs are over very fast…often before I even get there! 😵‍💫 Run Coil often enough and one will soon get the run of things; then it’s down to the luck of the ‘teammates’ draw! 🎲🎲 The one really good tip you mentioned was to check that the ‘fwtc’ mod is applied. 🫣 I’m going to check all mine on H / W / T now! 😁 Play fair! Play nice! 👈 Ease springs! 🫡

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    • I'm casual and have yet to try coil. Thanks Ray!!!

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    • Sometimes I have had good teams, mostly I end up with suboptimal teammates that like to speedrun and despawn the Glass Stealer before I can kill it causing an automatic failure for Platinum. I wish more teammates would run Dragonsbreath that way I could run Gjally and we could do some great DPS, but most teammates seem to like running legendary machineguns that don't match their subclass. I have found a sword build for Solar Titan that seems to work with Lament for some DPS and added survivability for when I get in a tight spot for my Titan. Wellock is a good build for Coil I have found.

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    • Step 1: 100 resil Step 2: don’t be dumb

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      • Coil platinum isn't hard if you take it slowly. Stop watching the clock, play defensive, and a half decent team will get it done.

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      • So the TL;DR is... Shoot the aliens and don't die. Could've just condensed it to that tbh.

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      • Edited by Tis-but-a-scratch: 1/21/2024 5:47:28 PM
        Please change the post title. Not “how to survive” but to “how to do” The problem isn’t how to do it. It’s the raised difficulty and sheer numbers of adds, with no cover to catch your breath.

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        • Where does Bungie explain all this? Nowhere. Bungie is just a bad gaming company overall. You are going in blind and too bad if you get nothing for your time. If you aren’t happy, quit your job, leave your wife and kids, and become a streamer, then you can play all day long and know everything there is to know about Destiny, because it will become your whole life.

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        • Have you reached the wish wall while running coil?

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          • Tldr 🤣 Two things! One, thats an excellent explanation Two, you are not an elitist, just a good player helping others by explaining. An elitist would post “git gud” and “go play sonic, as destiny is only for us gods”

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            • Thanks dude, also being good doesn’t make you an elitist

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              • i stopped reading at "literally" also, i don't think the people you seem to be addressing are ever going to visit this forum. first stop is youtube, if they even care.

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              • Holy crap that is long. I don't have time to read all of this rn. But thanks for putting this together!!

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                • I did a platinum run in full PvP gear and weapons save my heavy weapon slot. 30 resili with a iggy and stompees, match making to boot. If you cant complete the coil with plat rewards maybe Destiny 2 is not for you. If you are thinking I got lucky with a good team, no.... First wing my teammates ate dirt and we had 13 lives left. One guy also had double primary weapons.

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                • Might be just me but sometimes, it seems like the Pool of Light sometimes not clear the Pervading Darkness while fighting the Taken Bosses (mostly against the Knight). Might be server lag or something else because i mostly deal with randoms.

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                • Coil is not hard, it can be difficult based on the rotation and modifiers but that is offset with the ability to purchase augments and lives. If you understand it solo is the easiest way to go.

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                • Edited by StinkyDelicious: 1/20/2024 8:51:18 PM
                  These are all great tips. The problem is that seasonal activities attract the casual players. These players aren't on the forums and won't be reading this. If you don't go in with a full team than good luck getting two players who know what to do. I usually get one experienced player and the other one is very casual.

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                • Nice, Ray. I hope the ones having trouble stop to read it.

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