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12/2/2022 5:32:36 AM
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[quote]Criminally ignored exotics that got no love in the TWAB at all. Full Auto changes didn't even mention Skyburners Oath. What is Bungie doing? Sweet Business gets out performed in both PvE & PvP by just about every single exotic auto rifle in the game and Skyburners is well... Skyburners.
Also, Wormgod nerf gutted it entirely. There's now literally no reason to use it over Synthoceps...
Also, all the Glaive nerfs to the damage really were not warranted. Who is going to use them now? Their only use case was in PvE and now they're useless there after the changes. Maybe if you made them work with Aspects I could see the reasoning behind this but just exotics? Bungie, it should be strong if you sacrifice whole builds to be in MELEE range. It SHOULD be powerful. It's not broken by any means if you first have to even GET into that range to begin with. Seriously... It's like they don't even play the game outside strikes where everything is strong.[/quote]
Skyburners got a rework not too long ago and is pretty solid now. Especially in cabal content or when paired with a solar build.
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It’s still an extremely bad exotic. The scotch is entirely negligible and the gun itself is just a glorified 150.
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Edited by Bore: 12/2/2022 4:06:14 PM[quote]It’s still an extremely bad exotic. The scotch is entirely negligible and the gun itself is just a glorified 150.[/quote] It really isn’t. It’s as good as you can get for a primary. Great add clear and great synergy with solar 3.0 builds.
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That’s bait
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[quote]That’s bait[/quote] You clearly haven’t used the gun since it got a buff last season.
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I have. It’s still one of the worst exotics in the game. The scorch means nothing and besides that it’s still just functionally not good compared to the majority of other exotic primaries.
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[quote]I have. It’s still one of the worst exotics in the game. The scorch means nothing and besides that it’s still just functionally not good compared to the majority of other exotic primaries.[/quote] Scorch is extra damage on top of allowing it to have the synergy it has with solar builds.
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Scorch on its own barely adds anything and the stacks are so pitiful that you’re rarely causing ignitions with Skyburner’s. The AoE is effectively meaningless once you’re in content above patrol level, the extra damage to cabal is literally a couple percent, which means nothing, and there’s a heaping pile of anti barrier options nowadays. Skyburner’s shield piercing hasn’t been special in a very long time. It’s a very bad exotic that didn’t really get the attention of actually needed.
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Edited by Bore: 12/2/2022 5:56:43 PM[quote]Scorch on its own barely adds anything and the stacks are so pitiful that you’re rarely causing ignitions with Skyburner’s. The AoE is effectively meaningless once you’re in content above patrol level, the extra damage to cabal is literally a couple percent, which means nothing, and there’s a heaping pile of anti barrier options nowadays. Skyburner’s shield piercing hasn’t been special in a very long time. It’s a very bad exotic that didn’t really get the attention of actually needed.[/quote] Scorch is extra damage on top of the bonus form being an exotic and the bonus to cabal. There is no better exotic primary to take into a cabal GM. That was proven when proving grounds was last available, especially since that strike also has increased solar damage, making it even better. It has a solid place in the game. You are not meant to cause ignitions with just the scorch from the gun. There are many abilities that apply the stacks very close to the max, but not quite. Sky burners will cause them to hit their max with one or two shots. Applying the scorch also works to activate the fragments based around scorch. Again, skybruners is as good as exotic primaries get. You clearly have not used it in high end content.
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So we’re just making stuff up now, gotcha. Did you know that Sturm is the best DPS weapon in the game?
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[quote]So we’re just making stuff up now, gotcha. Did you know that Sturm is the best DPS weapon in the game?[/quote] What did I say that’s made up?
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For starters, that Skyburner’s is “as good as a primary gets”. Even though it’s objectively one of the worst exotic primaries you can bring to any given content, even if it’s Cabal content.
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Edited by Bore: 12/2/2022 6:02:59 PM[quote]For starters, that Skyburner’s is “as good as a primary gets”. Even though it’s objectively one of the worst exotic primaries you can bring to any given content, even if it’s Cabal content.[/quote] That’s not how you use the word objectively. You can’t even give a reason why it’s bad, lmao. It’s damage is objectively very good, especially in cabal content and unlike most exotics, it has synergy with a subclass. You clearly don’t play any higher level content.
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??? I’ve already said why it’s bad lmao. It falls behind hard compared to other options because it offers quite literally nothing besides the 40% minor damage that all exotic primaries have. It’s fine to enjoy garbage weapons but don’t pretend they’re good.
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[quote]??? I’ve already said why it’s bad lmao. It falls behind hard compared to other options because it offers quite literally nothing besides the 40% minor damage that all exotic primaries have. It’s fine to enjoy garbage weapons but don’t pretend they’re good.[/quote] It’s damage is better than almost every other primary at it’s range, especially in cabal content. It objectively has good damage. It has good damage and good solar 3.0 synergy. Again, you can’t even give a reason to why it’s bad, lmao. You clearly don’t play higher level content.
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[quote]Lmao[/quote] About what I expected, lol.
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I mean, what else am I supposed to say? You’re talking about a comically bad weapon like it’s some sleeper god tier monster.
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[quote]I mean, what else am I supposed to say? You’re talking about a comically bad weapon like it’s some sleeper god tier monster.[/quote] Never claimed it was god tier, please read. I said it is a good weapon, especially in higher level cabal content, which it is. You’re claiming it’s comically bad, but can’t give a reason why, lmao.
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I can’t give a reason why except for the multiple times I did. You’re illiterate, which isn’t surprising coming from someone who thinks Skyburner’s is an actual gun.
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[quote]I can’t give a reason why except for the multiple times I did. You’re illiterate, which isn’t surprising coming from someone who thinks Skyburner’s is an actual gun.[/quote] You’ve claimed it isn’t “functionally” as good as other primaries, except that it has objectively very good damage with infinite range. You claime it does “literally” nothing except have Bonus damage against minors. Which again is completely false. It has very good synergy with solar 3.0 builds and excels in higher level cabal content. Again, you’ve provided no actual argument against it being good. All you’ve done is shown me that you play no high level content and can’t tell what’s good or bad, lmao.
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Hey man, whatever makes you feel better.
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[quote]Hey man, whatever makes you feel better.[/quote] Again, about exactly what I expected, lmao.
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Not really dude. You sacrifice an exotic slot to burn someone a little bit. Nobody uses this Exotic in both playlists and nobody appreciates the rework we got because nobody uses it still. Incandescent is on legendary weapons and it gives 6-8× as many scorch stacks without taking up the exotic slot. Not only that but scouts in general neither have a good TTK in PvP nor a solid DPS in PvE. The only good PvP scout is Hung Jury and the only good scout in PvE is Tatnished Mettle. Neither of which are even Exotics. It's really strange that you think this gun is solid anywhere when basically every other legendary scout out performs it.
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Hung jury is not a good PvP scout anymore. Box breathing nerfed.
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Edited by Bore: 12/2/2022 5:45:05 AM[quote]Not really dude. You sacrifice an exotic slot to burn someone a little bit. Nobody uses this Exotic in both playlists and nobody appreciates the rework we got because nobody uses it still. Incandescent is on legendary weapons and it gives 6-8× as many scorch stacks without taking up the exotic slot. Not only that but scouts in general neither have a good TTK in PvP nor a solid DPS in PvE. The only good PvP scout is Hung Jury and the only good scout in PvE is Tatnished Mettle. Neither of which are even Exotics. It's really strange that you think this gun is solid anywhere when basically every other legendary scout out performs it.[/quote] Intrinsic exotic damage increase. Bonus cabal damage. Shoots through cabal shields. Infinite range. Aoe damage. Scorch damage. It’s an incredible GM weapon, especially last season during the proving grounds strike. It’s also not the only exotic scout that is good in GMs/pve. The only downside in pve is that it is a primary and you’re better off running double special 99% of the time. It’s not a PvP weapon, nor is it trying to be. Though you can do solar ability one shot combos with it if you’re desperate for an easy kill.
