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Edited by Spawn:
9/16/2018 1:12:40 AM
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Sleeper Simulant is ruining Gambit
I don't want to be the buzzkill here, I know many of us don't want to see things nerfed but this, my dudes is ridiculous. It can one shot you from anywhere on the map, body or head it doesn't matter. The invading player can see your location which gives them time to charge it up and one shot you. How is this not considered broken?
I could "get gud" or whatever but getting good still does not make gambit fun if I have to be paranoid that every invader is running sleeper. Yes, I could run sleeper too. I could go around one shotting invaders and defenders all day but that still does not fix the issue. If the only way to counter sleeper is sleeper that's a problem. I'm not saying nerf sleeper into the ground but it needs some tweaks, it's just not fun playing Gambit anymore when there is such an easy way to dominate the field.
I know many of you will fire back at this post because a lot of you most likely love sleeper and use it yourselves. However, I really want you to take a step back and remove your bias to really look at this weapon and then give your opinion on it.
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It’s f’n shitty when one that invades uses sleeper while the other three melt the boss with WOTW
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First, fartmonkey should be forbidden. Second, remove these name tags above the players and Third, I love me some sleeper myself in gambit.... 😂😂😂
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4 RepliesI think removing the name tag from the invaded fireteams head would solve this problem. Sleeper is not as lethal in crucible because you cannot see exactly where players are through walls, anywhere on the map. Seeing the exact location of enemy players when invading is the broken mechanic. I understand why Bungie made the decision to mark invaded fireteams, it’s so players who normally would not PvP can get kills and stay interested in gambit. But it is straight up easy mode with basically any high impact weapon. The challenge is in intuiting where an invader will drop in and moving to intercept them before they can make a play, especially if they spawn on high ground. I don’t want to see Sleeper nerfed, but I also don’t like being mapped by it the second an invader drops in because they know my exact location.
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What I dont like about it is when an invader comes in, everything goes red, and the invader is red. Drifter says "find him before he finds you" not too hard to be found when the invader knows where everyone is.
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Fart monkey. Nope. Don't care about the opinion of someone who uses the name fart monkey.
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Maybe have it so the Invader doesn’t get an over shield. And/or make them known where they are at. Only if they have Sleeper equipped. Or have Sleeper locked from use in Gambit.
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You can i don't know.. use it as well and kill the invader? Lol linear fusions works wonders too. Ive 1 shot invaders with a linear.
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Couldn’t agree more. It’s the best heavy for almost every element of the game.
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Yeah it's a bit broken. I had used my missile titans super, and got oneshot in the air right before hitting the invader. Made for a cool clip for him though I get 😂
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Add a laser highlighter to the charge. Doesn't nerf it in PvE, and gives you a fighting chance to dodge a 1 hit body shot in PvP. We know Bungie does like 1 hit body sniping as luck in the chamber is still gone.
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1 ReplyShut up
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You're a bigger buzz kill than Buzz Killington
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What is ruining Gambit is your teammates not reviving others and not banking motes - better to bank 5 at a time than too lose all your motes!
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I agree. OHK to the body even against a super sucks. Nerfing Sleeper would just make it suck. It's not an easy weapon to balance.
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Don't nerf it. Certian weapons must be balanced in crucible by banning them from being used. Rather than needing weapons, it's time that people learn to not abuse the game mechanics cause than there will be no game mechanics to abuse. Ban the Sleeper Stimulant. Don't nerf it, remove the game mechanics that players are abusing.
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4 RepliesIt sucks, I totally agree. I got zapped a few times today from out of nowhere, but hey, we won anyway so it’s not [i]that[/i] game-breaking. You want to talk frustrating? I got hit by Seismic Strike maybe ten times in one Crucible match by a player who I don’t know how was using it one after the other. Spawn, run, seismic strike, spawn, run, seismic strike. Repeat. FML, that was so goddamn frustrating.
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It's not broken, but it is extremely useful and powerful in Gambit. But it's not unbearable. You can still win games against people who use it, and still kill the invader.
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Don't nerf sleeper, just remove the ability of the invader seeing everybody through cover!! The reason sleeper isn't a problem in other game modes, is because we haven't got a permanent marker over our heads. Simple solution with zero nerffing to a great weapon.
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Was equally annoyed at sleeper, than i just had to adapt to gambits meta. Snipers typically kill in one shot, learn the invader spawns, than emote cheese'm. Sleeper cant kill behind walls...although it cought me once after i got behind cover...but that was latency.
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He is right it shouldn't be 1 body shot from across the map
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I think that a possible solution might be to reduce Invader advantage a bit (they have an overshield and I think they know where everyone is). Maybe a slight reduction in frequency could also help, or have deaths heal the primeval by a little less. We don't want to start nerfing guns, that leads to disaster!
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A good scout rifle could 6 tap a invading guardian. Or a sniper. I use the new vanguard sniper with explosive payload to one hit invaders. No charge time. No sleeper
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2 Repliesmy opinion its awesome. please stop.... just, stop. the weapons was made to melt bosses, it is equally as good as melting players, etc. use what you have to your advantage. the aim is winning, not participating.
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Stop crying. Get better.
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4 RepliesWRONG!!! The Ace of Spades quest has ruined Gambit!
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9 RepliesHere’s my opinion. Get over it. The thing is something that for the longest time was used for dps primarily now it’s getting used in gambit. The thing about whining for nerfs on metas is that a new meta will pop up. Think back to d1 when shotguns and snipers dominated the crucible, enough people complained and that meta got swapped with NLB, sidearms and that primary shotgun. You’re just gonna end up switching something bad to something worse and in progress ruining the pve side. My advice? Adapt, overcome, move on.
