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9/1/2018 1:09:57 PM
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Moebius Quiver with tractor cannon?

Hey. I've tried doing some research and can't find anything. When Moebius Quiver is selected (which deals "massive damage" against tethered enemies), is it affected by tractor cannon? i.e. will it do more damage? Especially curious considering the recent change to Orpheus Rig giving Nightstalkers more arrow shots. Could be quite useful? Anyone tested this?

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  • Tractor cannon damage bonus no longer stacks with other bonus damages

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    • It depends if that damage buff is an actual damage buff like empowering rift. Or if it's considered a debuff like most other things. If it's considered a debuff then tractor cannon will override it and not help out.

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    • Edited by London Lost Boy: 9/2/2018 8:38:37 PM
      The tractor cannon neutralises all other buff/debuffs and becomes the only active debuff. Even if used before or after, TC will always be the affect. If the arrows only work when tethered, the TC will override any buff but this is def worth investigating more.

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      • It kind of depends which debuff trumps the other. If the actual tether debuff is the one that will always be in effect, then tractor cannon does nothing beyond the first shot, since the two cannot stack. However if tractor cannon trumps tether, and tractor cannon actually does a bigger damage increase (which i believe it does for void weapons specifically), then it would actually increase the damage output of your tether shots. I just personally dont know which debuff trumps the other so i cant fully answer this question.

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      • Edited by Combo164: 9/1/2018 10:06:38 PM
        Good question. Tractor does buff the damage of void however it doesnt stack with tether with the update. Question here is, is the damage from hitting a tether target with another arrow different than hitting a tether target with a gun. Questions questions.

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        • It’s strong. Definitely not a bad strategy. Not ridiculous though.

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          For everyone saying it doesn't stack with tether, that's not what he's asking, he's asking if the tractor cannon buffs the damage of the arrow itself because after the first shot every shot after that does massive damage, and yes tractor cannon does buff that damage and if the adds are plentiful you could do a MASSIVE amount of damage

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          • Tractor cannon removes the tether. So if you tether an enemy and then tractor cannon, you will be shooting an untethered enemy. Visually, they will look tethered, but the game registers it as untethered.

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          • No, it's not impacted by tractor cannon. It's in the patch notes, with the tractor cannon buff, it no longer stacks with other debilitating effects like Shadow shot and the sunbreaker dash

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            • You could always test it. Shadow shot doesn’t stack with tractor canon anymore. But tractor canon boosts void damage so the arrows that hit an enemy could be boosted. Try booping a boss and shoot him with an arrow. Then shoot it he same boss without booping and see what the difference is. 2nd arrow could be different after tether takes affect. Could possibly cancel out the boop or boop could stay and tether has no affect on damage

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              • Shadowshot doesn’t affect power ammo damage anyway

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                • Tractor cannon disables all other buffs. So you can't use hammer strike or tether with a tractor cannon.

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