Fact: PvP crybabies killed this franchise.

Everybody that's been around since Y1 knows that Destiny 2 is the result of Bungie trying to cater to PvP whiners. All that was dumbed down in D2 was done to balance PvP.

I love that solo players are speaking up now. Better late then never. Keep it up.

[quote]Destiny 2 is what it is because of poor management, and miscommunication. Its been like that for years. That is part of the reason for the summit which I hope is actually for a good cause and changes the game in a positive way. Solos didn't ask for exotics to drop like hot cakes, we didn't ask for enemies to be sponges, we didn't ask for max light to be easily obtainable. [b]All we [Or me at least] want is some endgame that tests our skills as an individual. I don't think that is too much to ask for.[/b] Remember soloing crota? Could you imagine not having to cheese the bridge and doing that in an actual raid that accommodated you as a solo player?[/quote] This! The lone wolves salute you Guardian!

Soloing content is THE ONLY way to make this game hard, and even then a pre schooler could beat 90% of it. I don't play in a fireteam because it's even easier that way, not like in Borderlands where the enemies grow stronger the more people you play with!

if your not raiding you don't need raid gear, if your not playing trials you don't need trials gear, nor do you deserve them, yet most solo players in D1 bitched at bungo that they were getting rekt buy trails and raid weapons in the crucible, so bungo made it then easier to obtain in D2, i have sherped many a raid on D1 and helped a load of players Kill raid bosses, If you've only ever had bad experiences playing with others then that's sad but everyone who does play with others should not be disadvantaged because of it, take for example, vanilla D2 on the ps4 (couple of months ago) trying to get a sins, ran the raid however many times, being given tokens and garbage, never got a sins, come to sherp some members who had never done it, yet they had 2 sins. That's not right IMO. Not that it upset me, i was happy for them, i just don't think its right, when i and my raid team where the ones grinding that kill every night. Pretty much 1 team did all the raiding in a clan of 100. The clan engrams and max light being so easy to obtain are what killed this game IMO, at least in D1 you had to at least play trials to get the gear, whether from bounties or flawless. The game itself has gone too casual, and i agree not all solo players are to blame, but it defiantly isn't the people that do have all the gear that are bitching about balance and stuff is it. Never the less i hope you have fun playing, and hopefully this franchise will find itself again, with enough for everyone to do.

I agree. Classic raids should be group play as is, I would never want to take that away from dedicated clans, however it would not hurt to have solo endgame content that gets effort and attention on the devs part similar to raids. In fact that’s what these so called raid lairs could have been or at least one of them. Something that favours stealth and being light and flexible over numbers and brute force perhaps. Allowing quick, quiet takedowns to avoid raising alarms and massive reinforcements, or hidden path that collapse if too many players trample over them, or any number of things really. Consequently activities like that should reward with items that promote that kind of gameplay, such as perhaps silenced guns (pve perk) or armor with invisibility perks etc.. Or if that is too “un-destiny-like” at least challenging encounters that are tough, but don’t require extra warm bodies just because herding cats is adopted as game difficulty. For some it’s a fun challenge to manage and create groups yes, for others however it’s just off-putting. Bungie’s effort to pressure solos into group activities is a wasted effort. You will not force the majority of them into conforming, you just won’t. Period. It’s something that a lot of developers seemingly have a hard time to comprehend. People spend their free time on their hobbies how [b]they[/b] chose, not some game dev or stranger on the internet.

D2 was literally designed for the casual scrub, and people who don't play with groups (lone wolves). You can hit the cap by doing nothing but public events and milestones. Zero effort. You don't deserve special treatment just because you're too lazy to find a group of people to play with. I don't even like people, yet decided to join my friend's clan because I wanted to get the most out of my game.

I can blame the community all I want. What good reason would Bungie want to make what we didn't want? It's not miscommunication on Bungies side, it's the fact that people did not make it clear what they wanted, and simply made brief complaints without resolution (nerf this, change that), leaving Bungie to interpret that in their own way. I can blame the community all I want, and people can disagree with me. I don't care. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and everyone can deny whatever they don't want to hear (like the flat earthers).

I dont understand why you have such a hard time playing with others. As much as you play and as much as you get on the forums...

Soloing crota is one of my best memories of destiny 1. Just the journey of going down to the abyss and returning triumphant was very satisfying. Oh and about the management, this is 100% true as far as I'm aware. The devs are very talented and capable of making the game great. But the game has always been hinderd by mainly poor management and directors who have little to no idea of what destiny is and no clear vision of what it should be. Luke Smith is part of the management right? If somehow bungie gets a better management which is unlikely, there would definitely be hope for the game to become amazing.

I keep seeing people say join a clan or play another game. Looking at how shitty this games release was bungie should have anticipated player quitting and had content in place for you straggler solo players. They should have covered all areas. 1-6 player end game activities. If they weren't so busy staring at their dicks in the mirror, saying I cant wait to -blam!- these people and actually did their jobs, players wouldn't be bitching.

It's time to get with the program. Destiny is a multilayer game at its core. Ita about time Bungie has stopped trying to appeal to everyone

I blame solo dolo players trying to play solo dolo in a team based mode. Go play Rumble if you want to be a solo player. I see players on control run off on their own ALL THE DAMN TIME and do nothing but become a skull icon on the screen. If its a TEAM based mode, here is a tip, PLAY as a TEAM! Stop coming here complaining you are always getting team killed.

Lol, I think D2 is done. They're getting crushed by Fortnite (free game), Player Unknowns Battlesgrounds, Rocket League (another free game), Overwatch, GTA V (which is still going strong after like five years) and a few others. Can't wait to RDR2 sweep in. Bungie can host a summit and "try" to make D2 better all they want, fact is they made too many poor decisions. - They took away customization that we had in D1 with subclasses... you imagine a competent developer would've expanded on that and not went completely backwards. - You have such limited options as to what game modes you want to play in PvP because let's face it, the playerbase isn't there to support it anymore. - Oh great, we're getting custom games back when the game should've launch with it in the first place. - Bungie didn't use dedicated servers... a lot of people wanted them to including myself. For the people who say "dedicated servers wouldn't fix anything", it would have. Cheating in PvP would have at the least been hindered. Let's be honest Bungie's banhammerr must've been nerf'd or something because apparently there's plenty of video evidence of people cheating and nothing being done by it. - Bungie has been caught multiple time throttling xp gains and lying on more than one occasion. Anyone remember how long it took them to admit there was a sprint lock, lol? - The prestige trophy/achievement used to read along the lines of "complete the Prestige Nightfall or Prestige Raid", not it's you can only unlock it by doing the raid. Kind of funny how that worked out. Bungie was real quick to answer on that and change the description once people started returning their game, lol. - The endless supply of re-skins we keep getting as "new content" are pretty awesome. - For a supposed AAA studio marketing and releasing a beta as a full sequel I would've expected faster updates, patches and in game hot fixes.... Who knows though maybe if everyone comes back and we all collectively grind for a 10th Better Devils it will be better than the previous ones we've collected, I remember some guy at Bungie saying something along those lines.