[quote]Don’t get me wrong D1 wasn’t a complete bundle of choices, but atleast sub classes could be optimised how you wanted to play.[/quote] this constantly grinds me when people start grumbling about this. honestly, there's effectively no difference. In D1, you're class setup allowed you to change you grenade type, your jump type, your agility/armour/recovery balance and then gave a small selection of additional perks that could be used to create a few different ways to play that class in terms of maxing DPS output or a stealth build etc. In D2, you're class setup allows you to change you grenade type, your jump type and then gives two options for additional perk clusters that are used to create a few different ways to play that class in terms of maxing DPS output or a stealth build etc. meanwhile, your mobility/resilience/recovery balance is now decided by your armour. basically, the only difference is that D2 took away the requirement to faff with your skill tree to find the perk synergies. call it "dumbing down" all you like but the end result is the same and let's be honest here, if spending hours on end tweaking your build to perfection is your thing then you'd be playing Path of Exile anyway, not Destiny...

Very good point. Maybe as it gave the appearance of having more customisation made it better? I don’t know. But I absolutely hate the current set up. They had a real opportunity to make a fully customisable sub class, but they restricted us even further.