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1/21/2018 4:39:57 AM
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The Schumer Shutdown is, yup, democrat's fault.

Because apparently some people don't understand how the government, works, you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a spending bill. Republicans have 51 seats, democrats have 49. It is IMPOSSIBLE to pass a spending bill without at least 60 votes. The troll tier "hurr durr well republicans control the senate lol" excuse is just uninformed garbabe. People saying this either don't know what they're talking about or they are being intentionally dishonest. The fact of the matter is a bill came up for a vote to keep the government open and democrats didn't support it. Republicans didn't put something in the bill to piss off dems, it didn't have anything in it they actually oppose. They pulled this stunt because they wanted DACA slipped in with no immigration concessions whatsoever from republicans. They literally, not figuratively, put amnesty for illegal immigrants ahead of children's health insurance and soldiers getting paid on time, among other things. DACA wasn't going to be ended until march, there was no reason DACA had to be injected into funding the government. None. This was democrat's and their desperate attempt to get leverage because they have a minority in both houses and don't have the white house.
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  • Edited by tjustie: 1/21/2018 10:17:38 PM
    [quote]Republicans didn't put something in the bill to piss off dems, it didn't have anything in it they actually oppose. They pulled this stunt because they wanted DACA slipped in with no immigration concessions whatsoever from republicans. [/quote] Mfw Democrats tried to negotiate moderate bipartisan deals that included cuts to chain migration, (full!) funding for the border wall, end of the lottery system, etc, but: •Trump is a nightmare to negotiate with, holds no consistent positions, and reneges on previously made agreements •Trump and the white house clearly have different policy prescriptions, or more accurately, Trump is a weak piece of jello while the white house is staunchly anti-immigration •Building on 1 & 2, Trump always ends up subservient to his immigration hawk advisors and friends in Congress, meaning he won't sign anything moderate [quote]They literally, not figuratively, put amnesty for illegal immigrants ahead of children's health insurance and soldiers getting paid on time, among other things.[/quote] Mfw McConnell held CHIP hostage for months just to use it as a bargaining chip. Mfw [url=https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4710181/senator-mcconnell-objects-military-pay-protection]McConnell[/url] cares about the military. Mildly related throwback to when McConnell [url=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/12/06/mitch_mcconnell_filibusters_his_own_bill.html]filibustered a bill[/url] [i]he[/i] introduced because he didn't expect the Dems to agree with it. Mfw it's all just theatrics with McConnell. [quote]DACA wasn't going to be ended until march, there was no reason DACA had to be injected into funding the government. None. This was democrat's and their desperate attempt to get leverage because they have a minority in both houses and don't have the white house.[/quote] Mfw Democrats think [url=https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/955095991711084546]it's clear[/url] that a DACA solution won't happen, which is why they're are trying to force it through right now. Also, completely unrelated, but lol @ Trump suggesting Repubs take the nuclear option, a proposal so silly that McConnell immediately rejected it. Additionally, [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/19/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump-immigration-daca/index.html#ampshare=http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump-immigration-daca/index.html]here's some interesting polling[/url] on who's being held responsible for the shutdown now and whether people think shutting down the government over DACA is worth it. Turns out Dems are actually fairly divided on whether a shutdown is worth it, and independents are pretty broadly against the shutdown.

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