Destiny is a powerful Game. Not just in what has been loaded up on consoles since September 2014, but as a concept and vision that we all have for what else it could be. The Guardians that come to these forums are here because they are passionate about this game and it elicited an emotional response. Sometimes good, sometimes bad, but regardless of the experience these forums have been a place to offer up our feedback and hopefully help shape what this game can be. The caveat in that proposition is that there are millions of players who play this game and what we want and envision is not necessarily what everyone wants and so Bungie have to look at the overall scope of feedback and try to figure out the best ways to implement change that the Destiny community will enjoy playing. Over the course of the last 3 years there is a lot the devs have gotten right with the pulse of the community and there's also a lot they've swung and missed on. Despite the rose colored glasses of time that seem to suddenly paint D1 as the greatest gaming experience of all time, anyone who was here on these forums and who has a shred of honesty in them knows how unhappy people were on these forums for 3 years over countless issues. Destiny 2 is not a perfect game. From PvP to economy to meaningful endgame, it has a lot that it can and needs to improve on. The frustration that players feel, particularly in regards to functionality that was added to D1 over the course of its development that improved the game, but didn't make it into D2 is understandable. That said, Destiny 2 is also not the empty shell that it gets painted out to be either. There is a full campaign (imo one of their best) with a lot of awesome weapons and gear sets to get. The planets are put together well with a lot of activities to do that aren't the run in circles for 6 hours collecting Spirit Bloom to fully level a weapon or wait 3 days for a Warsat like D1. There are still strikes, Nightfalls, the raid and PvP; and to play it all to endgame across 3 characters is easily hundreds of hours of play. It can still be better and the fact is that it will be. Yes, it is frustrating to see the regression is so many areas and vanilla D2 is not the giant leap forward we all expected, but what we have going on here on these forums and in this community has devolved so far past representing actual feedback that it's hard to even log in and read it. Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion of the game, but spamming the forums with "this game sucks'' or ''I got ripped off'' isn't feedback and it's not doing anything to better this game. People see EA pull microtransactions from BF2 and think the answer is to scream as loudly as they can and Bungie will magically make the game they want. That isn't how it works. Yes we do have a powerful voice together and can and have made change to this game, but when the masses gather just to all throw stones and vilify the people who put so much work into this game, it isn't productive and it isn't right. It shouldn't need to be said that these devs are human beings who are all immensely talented and who care very much about this game as much or more than we do. This is their life and their creation and THERE IS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD GAME HERE, because if it all just sucks, what's the point of asking for improvements at all? So if you have feedback to give, that's awesome and if you want to stand together for change, that's great too. But in a world being torn apart by fear, hatred and mistrust sown by our ''leaders'' where human rights are being stolen from us everyday (we're about to lose net neutrality, think about that as gamers), to come to a GAME forum everyday and rip apart the people who make this game and post obscenities, death threats and all the other bullshit that somehow is deemed right and fair, just because you are disappointed in the game... Is that who we are now? Is that who we want to be? Or do we want to try to make this a place the devs want to visit and want to hear our thoughts and opinions? And you can say they don't listen or respond and our feedback doesn't matter, but again, if that's the case why are we here? The fact is that communication is a two way street and yes, Bungie can and needs to be better, but so do we. Edit: bnet is a joke on the rest of the internet. It has been for years now. This is our community and our place to share our voices and opinions on the game and it's a joke. Why would the devs want to come here? Why would they care what we have to say? Here's your tldr because apparently the message is lost and this is somehow a "everything's great" post. [b]If we want these forums to have real meaning and for the devs to want to come read what we have to say, then we need to be better. We need to not be so shitty all the time and we need to support good feedback[/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/239003272/0/0 Here is one of the best ideas you'll read on these forums. Why aren't you all there bumping it and supporting it? Why are most of the comments just shitting on the post? These are our forums and I know I'm tired of them being a joke.