Rather make all exotic weapons useful not just unique

LOL buff last hope to a one burst kill? You must be high. That gun is a joke and if you use it you have less than zero skill. A blind monkey with no hands could get kills with the last hope. Last hope magazine size needs to be cut in half and time to kill doubled.

Calling for nerfs is the reason we have the dumbed down weak ass version of destiny buff everything Think about it you're literally saying this gun is way too good it's so good we would like you to make it shittier pretty much most of the content which made destiny so good is gone The game is in desperate need of a reviveand consider this people if you're constantly getting killed and you think it's somehow is your opponents weapon why because you're such an amazing player that the only way they could possibly be killing you is with some super powered weapon-get over yourself

No kidding, Bungie, you need to not nerf a damn thing, just buff other weapons, mmkay.

Just use Uriel's Gift or MIDA, using anything else would ruin the joy of Crucible.

So, balance is kind of what I do, both as a player and in my job. I'm going to respond to your points, and then I'm going to give my personal opinion on the State of the Guns, so to speak. Nothing is meant as an insult, just observations and conversation points. If there is criticism, please understand it's given from a constructive viewpoint, not a salty one. that said: 1. The 360 rpm pulses need help? From my wanderings in the TTK charts, they are actually faster and more viable than something like the Nergal or Nightshade by 0.07 seconds. I think the bigger issue is that with the flinch values we're seeing, the chance of one of your bullets getting thrown off target, combined with the speed of the pulse duration, makes them easier to put off of the ideal TTK, which makes them feel less viable. Hopefully that makes sense; it was a little twisty. 2. Grenade launchers in general need a lot of help, possibly a rework. Play of the Game is an outstanding launcher, if a little demanding to use well. The other ones...why would anyone want to use them? Some don't kill on impact. Some don't have any proximity, so it's bean or bust. In general, they are a higher-skilled option than a rocket, with more ammo, more utility, and more fun factor, but they require so much ability to use well that most people will shelve them. This needs to be addressed. 3. As an avid user of the Last Hope, and a lover of the gun, I'm am going to firmly state that it needs to be left where it is. It is basically tied with the Antiope for the fastest nature TTK in the game. If you're getting outgunned with it, the other person simply played it better or got the drop on you; it happens to all of us. If flinch is messing you up, here's a little secret: stop aiming down sights with these weapons by default. I am totally serious; it reduces your handling, increases your flinch, makes your sight smaller, and does not improve your accuracy at all. Especially in PvE, I never ever ADS unless I have no choice, and this thing is deadly and fast out to about 30-35 meters. Just put the sight on the upper chest / neck area, and you'll win. Ok, with those out of the way, here's the really big issue we have. hand cannons have the slowest TTK in the game, the highest skill ceiling, and only work into the middle of mid-range with any meaningful accuracy or damage. In the shorter ranges, side arms are faster, more effective, and do more damage per tick. In the mid range, ARs are faster, more efficient, can have HCR, and do more damage per tick. So functionally, hand cannons have no range in which they are the best choice to use, making them pointless to use. Pulse rifles are effective from near mid to near-scout ranges. In the shorter ranges, ARs are faster, more effective, can have HCR, and don't have their entire TTK tanked by missing a single round. In the longer ranges, scouts are more effective and efficient, can have HCR, and don't have to worry about getting multiple hits per trigger pull to be at max efficiency. Just like the hand cannon, there is no range at which the pulse rifle is the best choice for an engagement, making the vast majority of them a very poor choice to use. Lincoln green / Time-Worn Spire are still stand-outs though. Comparing scouts to ARs, in most engagements, the AR has an advantage, 1 on 1. Missing one scout bullet tanks the TTK, while missing one AR bullet is negligible. in a lot of cases, the AR will outgun the scout in the scout's preferred range, just because of the game mechanics at the moment. i know the intent was to make ARs viable and a solid option, and that has happened. The issue is, name a situation other than far scout range or true CQC where an AR isn't simply the best choice. I can't really think of one, personally. They are rock-solid, generate great flinch, have some of the best TTKs in the game, don't seem to lose a meaningful amount of damage over most ranges, and can hold enough ammo to get 3 kills in a mag. Basically, there is no downside to taking an AR, specifically the 450 rpm, preferably with HCR. But hand cannons are invalid weapon choices. Most pulses are only middling weapon choices. Scouts are decent weapon choices, but only some of the time. An AR is always a good choice. So we have a class of gun that is functionally way too functional, and it's eliminating a lot of other play options. As much as I hate to say it, the AR class needs to be reworked, or it's going to make PvP a cluster for a long time to come. I don't want to see them ruined or made useless, especially after the last 2 years of D1. But if they are not rebalanced, they will make PvP a repetetive, boring, hand-holding mess. Give them benefts to compensate for what they lose, but they either need to be changed, or PvP will never improve.

You glorified cannons and pulses pal

Auto rifles should not be able to shoot across map with no damage falloff uriels gift really does need to be nerfed in my opinion. Either remove HCR or decrease the range. I am not saying both but I feel regular auto rifles should not have HCR nor should submachine guns as both are full auto. Each bullet would constantly cause your opponent to flinch. I can see why Scouts would have HCR since they are meant for long range not up close encounters So I won't complain about mida. The problem there is just the team shot with mida.

They're not. Instead they're adding a 720 rpm kinetic Auto rifle with HCR