No most pro gun people are reasonable being that their position is based on logic. That's the difference between left and right the right argues logic and the left argues that people should be controlled and stripped of their rights(free speech,guns,etc) because of some lies about social inequality and the need to stand up for the "other" no matter what the other is. For example the left loves Islam but in Islamic countries gays are killed and oppressed, women are killed,-blam!-,slaved and oppressed and not allowed out without a man, you have no religious freedom on threat of violence, you can't drink alcohol or you get whipped. But hey the white people are so bad right? They had slaves? Ya less than 5% of American had slaves ever yet the Arab slave trade is still going strong TO THIS DAY! ILLOGIC ALERT ILLOGIC ALERT!!! The left defends every group that Muslims hate and then blame white people. Can any leftist even think properly?

Ban people from kneeling during the anthem? Absolutely, it's disrespectful to our flag! Ban Muslims from entering the country? Absolutely, it's for our own safety! Ban addictive drugs? Absolutely, drugs destroy lives! Ban automatic firearms? BANS DON'T WORK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The only question about this topic that never gets answered is why anyone needs an AK47 for "protection"? Or any fully automatic, or semi auto rifle for that matter. Buy all means get yourself a hand gun, get a shotgun, get a damn hunting rifle and shoot a deer. I believe those type of weapons should be extremely hard to obtain legally as a civilian. Mass shootings are still going to happen because America has some crazy obsession with guns but the next time some nut job decides to shoot up a place, I guarantee the death toll won't be as high.

I find it most surprising that we can't seem to unite on anything nowadays. This shooting happens and the political mudslinging is already in full swing. Like seriously? Can't we put aside politics to help the people caught in the middle of that mess?

Civilians with guns would probably stop more mass shootings if everywhere wasn't a "gun free zone". An extremely large percentage of mass shootings take place in gun free zones. Gun free zones are completely stupid, because what kind of shooter is going to change their mind if the see a "no guns allowed" sign?

Criminals don't give a fûck about "gun free zone" signs. All "gun free zones" are doing, are leaving civilians defenseless. [spoiler]Allowing shooters to kill dozens with little to no resistance.[/spoiler]

You know, you could eliminate this entire problem with guns by making them mandatory. And -blam!- off any existing restrictions (if you have any at all) and force citizens to own military grade weaponry. No one will want to shoot up anyone because of the threat of immolation via flamethrower or something. LET EVERYONE HAVE MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS AND START A PURGE!

This man was an empty shell who had no real purpose. This will happen more often now that atheism and cultural degradation are running rampant.

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws, but one of the highest murder with firearm rates.

There is no discussion. Bad people don't give a fuсk about laws, they'll get weapons no matter what. Stripping freedoms from the law abiding citizens doesn't solve the problem. We already have restrictions on firearms. You'd think that something so simple could be grasped by individuals with even the slightest bit of common sense. That must be your problem.

Ok. You take guns away. Yay peace is achieved. Except it [b]isn't[/b]. Guess who are the only ones who own guns. The military (you hate them), cops (you hate them) and criminals. So essentially you are taking away protection from people and letting those who would illegally get these items and the people liberals [u][b]hate[/b][/u] be the only ones that have guns

gun nuts are massive hypocrites when they spew their shit about "omg don't politicize it!!!11!!" remember these subhuman are the first to say "gun bans didn't stop shootings in France!!!, they can use trucks!!!" I think its a symptom of being genetic trash they don't have a single argument other than buzzword clichés that they hear from fake news. just corporate cucks buying into these massive weapons companies. Absolutely no reason for anyone to have modern weapons. If you think its for protection, you are pathetic vermin.

What if we ban mass shootings

Shooting in vegas, kills 59. Ban guns. 59 people where murdered in Chicago last month. Not a word. Also, the second amendment isnt there for us to hunt. Its there to protect you from the police and tyranny. But hey, its whatever.

NRA just stated they want more regulation for bump stocks

I'm sorry to be the one who has to let you know this, but you are wrong. According to the Crime Prevention Research Center. https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/ [i]Norway Serbia [b]France[/b] Macedonia Albania Switzerland [b]Finland[/b] [b]Belgum[/b][/i] [i][b]The Czech Republic[/b][/i] USA [i][b]Austria Netherlands[/b][/i] Canada [b][i]UK[/i][/b] 10 countries (all in europe) more deaths from mass shootings (notice this list contains several european[italics] and EU countries[in bold]) than the US Now a list of frequency (top 15 EU in Bold european countries italics) [i]Macedonia[/i] [i]Albania[/i] [i]Serbia[/i] [i]Switzerland[/i] [i]Norway[/i] [i][b]Slovakia[/b][/i] [i][b]Finland[/b] [b]Belgum[/b] [b]Austria[/b] [b]Czech Republic[/b] [b]France[/b][/i] USA Canada (gun laws are very strict, but is still only one place below the US) [i][b]Netherlands[/b] [b]Italy[/b][/i] [quote]There were 55% more casualties per capita from mass public shootings in EU than US from 2009-15[/quote] and [quote]The CPRC has also collected data on the worst mass public shootings, those cases where at least 15 people were killed in the attack. There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed. Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom. [/quote] you can amend this to include the pulse nightclub and vegas but the fact still remains. Europe is just as bad, if not worse. If we include bombings the US falls way back on the list Your information needs reviewing and correction

I ordered a bump fire stock for my AR since Dems want them illegal now.

Do not remark about what you do not know. Comparing the 2nd Amendment op and those ignorant in U.S. History or law about such really are from outside the U.S. or have little to no clue on how laws really work in the United States. Those of you from outside the country i am sorry but do not let the Op misguide you. I have lived in places with strict gun laws like Japan. I can tell you that it does not stop a criminal from carrying a gun. They will get one regardless. Thus in the United States if you bothered to read the laws or understand how it works here then the "booze drinking." Argument can be shut down right away. The Op does not want to admit the closest he has been to a gun i suspect is a video game. I have shot the real deal. I do not own a gun but it is a nice option should i need one for three reasons that every gun owner should pass on when teaching about guns. #1 Hunting #2 Self-Defense, Sport Shooting in Competitions or the like. Also just getting a gun lickty split is much harder. Gun laws in the United States has three main components. Federal Law is over all other law, State laws vary depending on where you live. Then local county or city or town laws aka ordinances. Each state and county has different laws. This idea about gun bingeing and drinking comparison is simply untrue. Some are collectors others like to go out to shoot so often. The paperwork is a nightmare to navigate but if you can afford it you can go shooting. I been handling guns early in my child hood. I understood the risks and dangers. Ignorance sure is bliss as if the OP has any idea that you can get booze more easily then guns any day of the week. Sure i can make the argument that he is insane as is the comparison due to him really not understanding how it works. So how does it work? Every gun owner differs and i can tell you from experience the gun ban Clinton passed did squat. All it did was get people replaced on Capitol Hill and rightly so. Instead of placing weapons ban on criminals they put it on the common citizen. So OP that would be like placing Prohibition on hard booze. Makes sense right? All that did was get people stirred up. So your argument is ineffective for a few reasons. #1 you apparently never studied gun laws or history. #2 you like many others have never tried nor want to understand or have personal experience. If you do then its very misguided or ignorant but you have that right. #3 The application to things in motion as they occur. Men make laws but not every one follows them nor do some people believe in being safe. That is why accidents occur. OP and those who never shot a gun or played video games are addicted to this point of view they know everything. They cannot be wrong nor can they admit that a gun can save lives as well. People do not rob banks with baseball bats and knifes you know. The problem has been people not the weapon. If you separate those who are unfit to carry said weapon then it solves that problem. However the law cannot restrict people as the stupid and non stupid have the same rights. So while the OP is addicted to FPS games it is apparent that those who don't understand won't unless they are taught right from someone who owns a gun or who has handled guns before. Taking a gun safety class can give you eye opening information if you can afford it. Most places that sell guns might have such as it depends where you live and how that all works. In some places you might as well be SOL. Sorry. The more you let fear override your common sense the more irrational you become. If you want to overcome fear then learn about it. Guns are a danger but in the right hands they can protect people and save lives. A weapon is only a danger if a person is using it not against a foe but a friend. People should remember that the Constitution was written so that all those here in America can enjoy those rights so many died for. Freedom is never really free unless you want to fight for it. The 2nd amendment is a deterrent for the government becoming corrupt. It is how the founding fathers had the foresight and were geniuses in writing the Constitution. Those from other country's need not understand but they should not criticize. We do not mock you for not having guns and the ability to protect yourself. World is a dangerous place and nothing in life is fair. The second you think that it is then sadly it gets bad from there. Look at any third world country where the military has the weapons do they use them effectively? Also Op what is the first rule when handling any gun? Can you tell me?

I think it's a culture issue. They can make more laws, and of course people will find a loop and get illegal guns, though it may be a bit harder. But I think in countries like Japan where gun violence is extremely rare, not only do the strict laws help but the entire mindset of their culture. Some Americans feel they came out the womb with a pistol in their hand, and that ideology will not differ any time soon. Feels like it takes America a few centuries to shift philosophies of life. So maybe in the next 3 generations there will be a big difference, assuming a measure is taken to change our culture.