What users need to work on is their approach, because they believe they are ultimately correct and nothing they say is wrong, they always approach people in a condescending manner and shit talk them like some child. Look at Dah, even when you agree with dah he would flip out and yell at you like you are wrong for agreeing with him because he's right. Unclepeedee spends his life insulting everyone and blaming everything on liberals to the point he's insane. You [i]cannot[/i] discuss anything with him. Eccho ignores everyone who disproves him. Max ignores people and only responds in questions. Even I will admit this. If someone approaches me with attitude, goes off-topic with random rants, insults, or show absolutely no human decency, I'm not going to listen to them, nor am I going to talk reasonably with them. I also will never agree with them or at any point admit I'm wrong. But if people come to me and discuss points logically and with respect, something Pyro has done, I'll talk about it with them and listen to them.