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Edited by AlieN_x_HuMaN: 9/20/2017 11:23:30 AM
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Destiny 2 is Bad - A Long Post From a Long Time Veteran Player

[b]**This is a sub account that I started for D2. My main account psn is Kyllap. For those wondering. [/b] I've been doing some thinking on this whole playing through Destiny 2, and I have to admit that I don't like this game. I feel that it is a shell of what we had with TTK and RoI, up until the last stretch of D1. Let me say that I have played through D2 on 2 characters (both solo and with a team), I have a large clan, I've done all the activities in the game (including flawless trials and the raid), every strike, etc etc. I'm not 'salty' about this or that. I simply think this game isn't what I thought it was and I am hugely disappointed. Let me list some things I don't like and describe why I don't like them. - 4v4 Crucible. When this was announced I thought, 'eh whatever. It'll be interesting and fun.' And it was fun...for a week. And then I started to miss having 6 people in chat in a fireteam dropping supers and capping zones and talking shit. With this 4v4 only, there are only...4 players....lol... It's just a shell of what it was. Just team shooting. Sure you can pull off some plays here and there, but in the end it's just bad. - Enhanced Aim Assist. Is there any skill left in Destiny? Does it even require skill? Take your crosshairs and hover over an enemy and watch what happened when another enemy crosses your path... The gun literally follows them for feet. Yes there was AA in D1, but this feels like Skylanders. - Actual Content. This has been an issue in Destiny since Destiny was Destiny. And it's STILL an issue. The story spans four planets, but is bland and forgettable. The missions don't scale in difficulty with a fireteam so you just blow right through them. I had to play it again solo just to somewhat enjoy it. Which is laughable in a game that promotes group play and clans and teamwork. Then once you get it done there is zero reason to do Lost Sectors and Adventures unless you care about story simply for the story. Which would be ok, but again there are zero rewards. Why wouldn't they incorporate every single one of these side things into quests, or into the story line? In fact where is the quest tab at all?? Nowhere. Because there are like 4 total quests to give you a MIDA and some other bullshit you'll never use. A MIDA?? From year 1 of Destiny?? Jesus man. I don't get it. - Subclasses. The same three. I need not say more. - Trials of MIDA Multi Tool..... Let me say that I actually enjoy 4v4 Trials. I like the Nine concept and I do think the gear and weapons look cool. I even like the horse at the end. What I HATE is that Bungie has created a meta of multi tools in ONE WEEK. If you use anything other than a MIDA and a Uriel's you're out gunned. So everyone uses that and that's it. In one week. And now the endless 'balance' patches begin which will send you on a goose chase for weapons you dismantled long ago because they sucked ass but now they're op! Same old bullshit. - Graphics. Can you believe this?! I'm complaining about the graphics in Destiny. But I'm not talking about the world designs, particle effects, or skyboxes. No. I'm referring to character models, armor, and shaders. They all look like garbage. Not because the design is bad, but because they have sacrificed character detail to enhance the world. And while I liked it at first, after a while you just want your guardian to look cool, right? But in no way is the same appeal there that D1 had. Everything aside from like 4 shaders looks bland and boring. Emotes are all boring and recycled. The rendering of our guardians is jus bland and honestly kinda fuzzy. - The Raid. To absolute HELL with this raid. It's worse than Kings Fall. I actually enjoyed KF with a good team. But this. This is garbage. Far too many annoying mechanics. Too involved engagements. Checkpoints which need to be obtained again??! Yes I know that opening the door is easy but why must I do that every time or walk some stupid maze? This raid has no replay ability factor for me. I have lead and guided many players through D1 raids many times. I loved it. This raid makes me want to trade in the game. I hate it. The end. *- Thought I would add that running out of ammo DURING a firefight is absolutely ridiculous. And it happens so frequently. I've said on several occasions to my team that I'm just out of ammo.... I will end with this: Bungie told everyone on stage that they wanted to unlock the fun of Destiny. They wanted to make it accessible to a larger audience. They wanted people to experience the raids. Well I can tell you for sure that no one is in the slightest interested in using Guided Games for this raid, or anything like it. I wouldn't even use GG for this week's Nightfall, which is again super annoying and damn near impossible for a majority of players. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Let's make a super casual game and then throw The Leviathan at everyone along with a NF like this.... Gooood job Bungie. Ok I'm done.

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  • Grow a pair, let me know if you need a dress to go with that binky.

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  • Ever had a break from destiny?? I didn't think so...

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  • I don't like the raid. Too easy, and puzzle based raid activities don't have the replayability factor that WoTM type encounters had.

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    • I knew aim assist was a thing but I haven't really noticed it. Oh wait, so THATS why I suddenly completely forget how to aim from time to time! Out of nowhere the gun just starts flying all over the ducking place hitting everything except what I want to. [spoiler]the real question is: does it happen because aim assist is failing or activating?[/spoiler]

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      • Edited by Hiatus: 9/20/2017 7:07:09 PM
        [quote]- Enhanced Aim Assist. Is there any skill left in Destiny? Does it even require skill? Take your crosshairs and hover over an enemy and watch what happened when another enemy crosses your path... The gun literally follows them for feet. Yes there was AA in D1, but this feels like Skylanders.[/quote] Had a good laugh here. -This is on console -This is a Bungie game -You claim "skill in Destiny" Aim Assist has not changed. It has always been this strong. It was this strong in Destiny 1. It was this strong in every single Halo. It's a staple of Bungie FPS games, and while it can truly screw you over in fast paced engagements it's what helps the gunplay run so smoothly.

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        • The Leviathan raid is a glorified strike, its soo easy. Stop whinging about difficulty ffs. Next raid is just going to be a Nightfall because of you whingers.

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          • I disagree with some points but I agree with other ones. I personally will continue to play the game and I'll keep my opinion that it's a good game but I still respect your opinion

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          • For the raid shotgun Are you supposed to get 1 emperor seal from each encounter? Why does it say 5-15 then? Fix this shit BUMgie

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            • You know.... If you had possibly propsed, -blam!- I don't know.... ummm SOLUTIONS to your problems you probably wouldn't sound like a whiny little kid. [b]4v4 Crucible[/b] [spoiler]Should have learned to use a primary, I get multikills regularly....even against the MIDA that you aren't smart enough to counter. This is the best crucible that Destiny has ever had. It's FAR from the best competitive multiplayer experience on the PS4... but the best Destiny has ever done.[/spoiler] [b]Enhanced Aim Assist[/b] [spoiler]Feels about the same to me.[/spoiler] [b]Actual Content[/b] [spoiler]There's more here than there was in Vanilla Destiny. Just because you burned through it all at breakneck speed only makes this a problem for YOU, not Bungie.... Also.... you only have 2 characters, so you have plenty of content left. I still have lost sectors and adventures to do.[/spoiler] [b]Graphics[/b] [spoiler]Your remarks here seem..... more like an opinion. Enemies have new animations, new attacks, and new art. Seems fine to me...[/spoiler] [b]The Raid[/b] [spoiler]Well.... I haven't been able to beat it yet, but I'll get there eventually. Seems OK... it's a pain in the ass just like other new raids[/spoiler] Soooo.... You have any constructive criticism? Like citing a problem then suggesting a solution. Also at about 75 hours.... have you REALLY seen and done everything? Tested all of the variables?

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              • I went back and looked at D1. Our guardians looked so much better. Crisp looking. They look like overwatch cartoons now.

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              • No lol silly man Destiny 2 isn't a bad game. What's happening is you're finally starting to see the chinks in Destinys armor. There was no point in D1 that was some amazing experience. The stories were never exceptional The loot system was always poor And the crucible has never been balanced

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                • Will only agree that aim assist feels a little annoying. I hate aiming a rocket, or sniper shot, only for an enemy to run by a drag my shot in a direction right before i shoot. Other than that, pretty much disagree with the post.

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                • A lot of this is opinionated. Personally I enjoy 4v4 crucible with the addition of slow charging supers and the double primary load out. The emphasis on gun skill and team fights make it feel more like halo which is a huge plus IMO. It was so annoying constantly running around corners into a shotgun/super/sniper head shot. Just because you prefer the latter doesn't mean it's bad. I agree with the fact it was unnecessary to completely remove 6v6 though for the people who enjoyed that kind of play. The raid part is also opinionated. Granted you seem to be in the majority of that opinion. Personally I like having a raid that's less do "do this mechanic and then everyone group up and shoot a boss for 40 seconds". The graphics part seems a bit nit picky. I like a lot of the shaders, and am loving the look of my guardian and weapons. Aim assist? Yea that's always been that way. As for the MIDA, just chill for now, I'm sure the meta will change sooner than later. And as far as destiny metas go, MIDA is far from the worst. Not saying there aren't legit On my way! that flaws, but the reasons you gave are just saying "I don't find this fun so it's a bad game"

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                • Another thing I do not like about this game is the progression of the character power level. After you reach light level 20, that bar that shows XP accumulation turns yellow. I thought that whenever you filled it up, you get a chance to increase your power level. No. That bar now turns into a Bright Engram meter. I realized that after getting 5 bright engrams, my warlock is still stuck at 280. I would have preferred to have gotten legendary or exotic engrams higher than my power level. But now, every engram that drops is only at 271. No matter what activity I do, I always get a 271 engram. Zavala, Ikora, Gunsmith, etc. --- the engram I'm working towards only says 271. This is frustrating. So, my excitement about this game is gone. It seems to me that power level progression is RNG. Oh well.

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                • I agree with the mida bit to beat it whip out the sweet business and rev it up before engaging also using a rally barricade or healing rift helps with it just beat meta with cheesing the game

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                • There will always be a Meta. Nerfs won't help you.

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                • Oh no look at this long time veteran. Son shut up.

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                  • From what i get from your post, you're just complaining to complain. let's look at each thing you said: 4v4 crucible: seems the changes they made just dont fit your play style and you dont wanna adapt. Say that cause it sounds like you liked using abilities more than guns, and lone wolfing more than teamwork. While you can still use abilities, guns are more important, and the same goes for lone wolfing. It's cool if you dont wanna adapt your play style, but you're not gonna have fun if you dont. enhanced aim assist: feels about the same, and it depends on the gun you're using how much you get. actual content: there is a lot of content here, just sounds like you played through it in breakneck speed, and are now complaining you dont have more. That's not bungie's fault. They could release new content every week, and you'd still complain cause you'd play through it as fast as you could. Prime ex: people complained about being raid ready in a week, but now they complaining they dont have anything else to do lol. No one said you had to rush through the game to beat the raid when it first dropped, you chose to do that. Also, the game has only been out 2 weeks, there will be more quests & content in general added, but that leads back to what i said originally. trials: mida is not the meta. The meta in this game is teamwork. Teamwork beats any weapon. The map's layout just allowed mida (any scout) to shine this week. People just went with mida cause it's easier to use, and when you teamshot with it, it melts. graphics: yea, you're just talking shit to talk shit. The graphics have been improved, and yes i'm talking about character models, shaders, etc. The enemies act a hell of a lot more different now. They have different animations & behavior, with unique looks. As for shaders, you can shade any & everything how you like it, so all the people that wanted their guardian to be different, gets that option. Just cause you dont like some of the colors, doesnt mean 'all but 4 are bland'. raid: they actually made something difficult in the game, requiring teamwork, and it's a problem to you? lol ok ammo: i agree about that. I tend to run out of reg ammo more than i do power, which seems weird. ..overall, yea, sounds like you're just complaining to complain cause you played through the game as fast as you could....take a break from it....play something else, then come back guardian...

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                  • Lol I disagree with literally every point t u made. The game had alot of content in its base game u just blew through it all. Has at least double vanilla destiny so that argument is complete bullshit. U also commented on crucible which in non competitive is actually quite balanced. MIDA destroys in trials yes but nowhere else. And as for the raid, starting that KF was bad first shows ur just bad at raids because it is by far the best. This raid is actually really good too I'd put it the 3rd best raid just behind KF and wotm but above vog and crota. The raid came up with new and innovative encounters that were interesting and fun. It's also not very hard either

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                  • Agreed on the raid. 1 bad player is all it takes to make this raid painful and not fun at all. I do think it's fun with a decent team though. The moving parts make it interesting for everyone. Not like the older raids where 1-2 people can take the spotlight for most encounters while 4 others watch and dps at the right moments

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                  • The story is way too easy, bring back difficulty Bungie and turn the AI back up enemies are retarded now

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                    • It took Bungie three years to get D1 up to par. Three...years. D2 has been out for two weeks, it's going to have flaws, it's going to need some tweaks. The problem is, and this is with all game sequels, and movie sequels can be slotted into this as well, not just this sequel alone. Everyone. Gets. Over-hyped. Then, the majority are let down when expectations are not met. I'm not defending Bungie, I'm not saying things like NF don't need re-tooled. I haven't attempted the Raid so I can't speak for that, but I have read that it is awful and tedious in many many posts. But I have also read that it is a breath of fresh air, something new. What I can say is, I was a Beta D1 player, and even though that game was disappointing at first I still played the Sh*t out of it. So when I purchased D2 I expected pretty much the same thing, it was going to have some issues, and it does, and they most likely wouldn't be addresses for awhile. But, I lowered my expectations, I knew what to expect, and I was pleasantly surprised. D2 is fun, loot is more attainable, you don't have to focus on one activity to lelel your Power up, which is the way it should be. Every player should have multiple ways to grow in Power, and D2 provides that. I have all 3 of my characters at 290+ light and haven't even stepped one foot in the raid, and I have completed 2 Nightfalls. That. Is. Awesome.

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                      • You know what I hate...

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                      • You know why "I hate destiny 2 uploads" are getting so many up votes? Because people who actually like the game are playing it instead of complaining on the forum! Like seriously, if you hate it that much just leave already.

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                      • WHY ARE PEOPLE COMPARING A GAME ON IT'S 3RD WEEK TO A GAME THAT WAS OUT FOR OVER TWO YEARS! We are going to get more content. Just like we did with D1. As for the base game that was released there is more to do in D2 than there was in D1 during the first few months of release. I literally don't get it. Ya'll rush through the story and endgame then say, "Oh we have nothing to do." It's rather amusing

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                        • Saying 'from a long time veteran' doesn't make anything you say credible hahahahahahah

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