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Edited by AlieN_x_HuMaN: 9/20/2017 11:23:30 AM
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Destiny 2 is Bad - A Long Post From a Long Time Veteran Player

[b]**This is a sub account that I started for D2. My main account psn is Kyllap. For those wondering. [/b] I've been doing some thinking on this whole playing through Destiny 2, and I have to admit that I don't like this game. I feel that it is a shell of what we had with TTK and RoI, up until the last stretch of D1. Let me say that I have played through D2 on 2 characters (both solo and with a team), I have a large clan, I've done all the activities in the game (including flawless trials and the raid), every strike, etc etc. I'm not 'salty' about this or that. I simply think this game isn't what I thought it was and I am hugely disappointed. Let me list some things I don't like and describe why I don't like them. - 4v4 Crucible. When this was announced I thought, 'eh whatever. It'll be interesting and fun.' And it was fun...for a week. And then I started to miss having 6 people in chat in a fireteam dropping supers and capping zones and talking shit. With this 4v4 only, there are only...4 players....lol... It's just a shell of what it was. Just team shooting. Sure you can pull off some plays here and there, but in the end it's just bad. - Enhanced Aim Assist. Is there any skill left in Destiny? Does it even require skill? Take your crosshairs and hover over an enemy and watch what happened when another enemy crosses your path... The gun literally follows them for feet. Yes there was AA in D1, but this feels like Skylanders. - Actual Content. This has been an issue in Destiny since Destiny was Destiny. And it's STILL an issue. The story spans four planets, but is bland and forgettable. The missions don't scale in difficulty with a fireteam so you just blow right through them. I had to play it again solo just to somewhat enjoy it. Which is laughable in a game that promotes group play and clans and teamwork. Then once you get it done there is zero reason to do Lost Sectors and Adventures unless you care about story simply for the story. Which would be ok, but again there are zero rewards. Why wouldn't they incorporate every single one of these side things into quests, or into the story line? In fact where is the quest tab at all?? Nowhere. Because there are like 4 total quests to give you a MIDA and some other bullshit you'll never use. A MIDA?? From year 1 of Destiny?? Jesus man. I don't get it. - Subclasses. The same three. I need not say more. - Trials of MIDA Multi Tool..... Let me say that I actually enjoy 4v4 Trials. I like the Nine concept and I do think the gear and weapons look cool. I even like the horse at the end. What I HATE is that Bungie has created a meta of multi tools in ONE WEEK. If you use anything other than a MIDA and a Uriel's you're out gunned. So everyone uses that and that's it. In one week. And now the endless 'balance' patches begin which will send you on a goose chase for weapons you dismantled long ago because they sucked ass but now they're op! Same old bullshit. - Graphics. Can you believe this?! I'm complaining about the graphics in Destiny. But I'm not talking about the world designs, particle effects, or skyboxes. No. I'm referring to character models, armor, and shaders. They all look like garbage. Not because the design is bad, but because they have sacrificed character detail to enhance the world. And while I liked it at first, after a while you just want your guardian to look cool, right? But in no way is the same appeal there that D1 had. Everything aside from like 4 shaders looks bland and boring. Emotes are all boring and recycled. The rendering of our guardians is jus bland and honestly kinda fuzzy. - The Raid. To absolute HELL with this raid. It's worse than Kings Fall. I actually enjoyed KF with a good team. But this. This is garbage. Far too many annoying mechanics. Too involved engagements. Checkpoints which need to be obtained again??! Yes I know that opening the door is easy but why must I do that every time or walk some stupid maze? This raid has no replay ability factor for me. I have lead and guided many players through D1 raids many times. I loved it. This raid makes me want to trade in the game. I hate it. The end. *- Thought I would add that running out of ammo DURING a firefight is absolutely ridiculous. And it happens so frequently. I've said on several occasions to my team that I'm just out of ammo.... I will end with this: Bungie told everyone on stage that they wanted to unlock the fun of Destiny. They wanted to make it accessible to a larger audience. They wanted people to experience the raids. Well I can tell you for sure that no one is in the slightest interested in using Guided Games for this raid, or anything like it. I wouldn't even use GG for this week's Nightfall, which is again super annoying and damn near impossible for a majority of players. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Let's make a super casual game and then throw The Leviathan at everyone along with a NF like this.... Gooood job Bungie. Ok I'm done.

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  • [quote]Destiny 2 is Bad - A Long Post From a Long Time Veteran Player[/quote] [quote] AlieN_x_HuMaN About 17 Days on Bungie.net[/quote] Not that I don't agree with you, but 17 days isn't long enough to be a long time veteran player in my opinion.

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    • Who the -blam!- here isn't a veteran ... Stfu snowflake

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    • Dont worry tho... Faction Rally is coming. Probably will be 50K to choose your faction and it will be Seasons. You can only change once a season. Then the whole Clan shit. This week Monday and most of Tuesday it wasnt even give XP for any activity. Now, 5 people total in my clan and it takes forever to level up one Tier. We are not even past the first level and we do every activity. Except the Raid.

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    • Destiny 1 was like the sky fire of group making looking down sights playings. As it is the killer of all things, time made many things unlike they were until the weren't anymore. Again and again. And so it went for D1, altering and morphing, growing to shrink, shrinking to expand, until the spawn was born. So now the wheel turns again. We wade among the masses, attempting our accomplishments in the here and now, thinking about what it was or what it will someday be. So we shall let it breath as the killer kills, to see where we shall be led in the grand scheme, loitering with wanting eyes and ascending the ever changing horizon.

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    • Things I agree with; 1) Story is short 2) Missions are too easy 3) Rewards for extra missions are pathetic

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    • Dude I feel like theres not enough content I mean bungie (sorry if i said their name wrong or whatever) could have gone all out with destiny 2 could have added new features but to me this is more like an expansion to destiny 1. I'm like at 291 and I'm finding myself lacking any fun activity to do I mean it's just the same crap the last two weeks just with minor tweaks. I mean sure we get more legendary and exotics more often, I get them everyday but can anyone honestly say they didn't get a duplicate multiple times from either of them because I'm starting to get sick of seeing the same armor pieces. Bungie could have given new free content or whatever every other week to keep things fresh or add new gameplay mechanics. Hell what's the point of getting ships?? Can't even fly the damn things they're just good for loading screens. Could have added dynamic space battles or at least a death match between ships. Oh ya there's the tank section well look that was a good level but the fact you get an unlimited amount of tanks takes away the tension. Look don't get me wrong I liked this game for any fanboys who bitch at me or whatever I had fun but I'm starting to see the flaws here myself. I mean hell the story's could have been better like actually having a big city fight or whatever like in halo 2 shit bungie actually did halo pretty good. The character were more likeable and the cinematic were great but that clip hanger ending was just to set up expansion in the future which should have been in the story. I thought we were gonna have a big epic fight to take our home back tho and the stakes were going to be higher but we got our light back just like that and that kinda took the tension away. Sorry I'm starting to rant but like I said I like the game but it has flaws.

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    • Edited by DirtiestQBizzy: 9/20/2017 10:00:34 PM
      I have to agree. I don't know that this game has the longevity of the first. I played the he'll out of the first and did it all. Every day with this one I realize another dumb design decision. Its crazy. I've done flawless and raid in this one and the aren't even special perks on armor so why waste hours of time doing them? I hate to say it but the raid is way too mechanical. There is no way any new player is going to maintain interest in that convoluted mess. I finished it and I could care less to ever do it again. I'll send all my tokens to my hunter and he can turn them all in why would you only make the npc available upon completion? Timers! Wtf!? Never fun. That was something we learned in the early 90s. Why did they think they'd be fun now. I get wanting a challenge. But let's keep it fun. The majority of end game is less fun than it should be. I just don't understand why they broke things that clearly worked. They talked it up that this would be the best and fun for everyone. This game dies not cater to casuals at all post 20. So we can kiss them all goodbye pretty soon. Even a lot of hard core players are frustrated with a lot of this. I hope massive changes come soon. I'll still play for a while but I find myself losing interest more and more every day.... After putting in like thousands of hours in D1

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      • It's making me sad that I agree

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      • Tl:dr

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      • Oh boy, you sure did rile up the fanboys with this post. Ever notice how they crawl from under their rocks to spout the same old 'Don't like it don't play it' mantra?

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        • Annoying raid mechanics? Are you serious? Pools- hold plate. Swap to second plate while getting buff in middle. Hold plate. Gardens- sneak around. Gauntlet- shoot either upper or lower arrow. Jump down melee psion. Jump up and shoot next arrow. Run with orb through holes... Calus- (outside) shoot shit. Melee correct psion (Inside) shoot psions call out emblem shoot psions Back in throne room- hoop on plate shot boss move to next plate at correct time Literally... the. Whole. Raid.

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          • The real issue, IMO No VARIETY, we all have the same guns, the same armor, the same everything.....in slightly different colors What's the point of grinding a gun? If you get 1, that's it, there's nothing else to hunt for Adventures, no point if you are over level 20 Public events are fun, the 1st 50 times Why am I striving to level above 280 again? Look, I enjoyed the game. I really did. But there is no replay-ability with this game. Hopeful the DLC's add that. I NEED something to grind for!!!!

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          • Thanks for you [i]opinion[/i], bud. Pity you can't see what's right in front of you. Pity you feel the need to make childish complaints about everything and nothing, while trying to pass your crying off as fact. Don't like it? Don't play. Don't come here whining about things that aren't actually issues.

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            • First week of raid was hard work, this week was piss easy. Get a regular crew and youll enjoy it

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            • I would love to just see the destiny community have a DISCUSSION about this, not an argument or f you you're wrong and I'm right or *lets be toxic to each other*. There was a time when bungie forums were way different...

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              • Stopped reading at the subclasses. Basically invalidates all of this if you can't even put facts together.

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                • Couldn't agree more

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                • Edited by Brotein Bruh: 9/21/2017 1:32:10 AM
                  I feel you about the whole no quest page problem. There were like 4 quests one for each planet and 3 were for exotics. Oh and not mention the weapon quests take a slot in your weapons. The taken king had tons of side quests and stuff to accomplish after the story. Classic bungo 2 steps forward 12 steps back..

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                • You're not wrong on most of your points honestly. I don't think the game is bad but it's far from the leap I was hoping for.

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                • Edited by Sephiroth: 9/21/2017 1:17:11 AM
                  Half the ppl that were on playing D2 on my list are now playing something else. Lol. *Gears and weapons have too many duplicates having them dropping at set loots. RNG perks is what made ppl wanna grind back in D1. *Exotics are too easy to get...they're only good for infusion. I'm taking my time with D2 but something about it that I feel don't wanna keep going. But I'll keep going its only week 3.

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                • your bad

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                • One thing that would help is some unique legendary gear. Take them and put them in the lost sector chests and make the drop a rare one. Bring back strike specific loot. I don't understand why this gem of an idea was left behind. Bring back heroic strikes and have their legendary gear from the end box drop at 285. Put a choice for game modes in crucible or put a vote up between two. I'm assuming Iron Banner is going to hit at some point. If it doesn't then I don't even know what is going through your heads at Bungie.

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                • Whats really sad is that after just a couple of weeks, many of my longtime friends have started returning to overwatch and even playing D1 occasionally. D2 is going to die a quick death. Unless Bungie can pull a rabbit out of an arse, I see D2 just fading into oblivion. There is just nothing to keep anyone playing like there was in D1. Oh Well!! All good things must end.

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                    Why does every post on this forum have to be negative this a great game and I thoroughly enjoy everything in it. If you don't like it you don't have write a page long argument about it just stop playing

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                    • I agree with some points like Destiny saying the are going to unlock the fun but we can't choose strikes or PvP playlists yet, so I get it and for me I was in a clan in year one but became a lone wolf after HoW and still completed multiple raids from lfg and even became a Sherpa for some raids. But can I ask you this as one vet to another, deep down inside when each piece of information was released about D2 did you go "YES!!! They changed exactly what I wanted and I'm pumped AF" or did you go "hmmmm not sure about that but I'll wait n see" because as soon as I saw D2 was a shooter and along with all the other changes I new its was a halo reskin of destiny. This is why I have no attachment to this new game and will probably go back and play D1 or new games as they come out, I miss my rolled weapons I spent so long getting, I miss feeling powerful. Last check on time wasted in destiny (1) I was around 3500 hours. As soon as the content is dead (which even for a casual like me now is fast approaching) I'll be looking at anthem and other games. Also I used to love sitting down on a Saturday and watch streamers smack kids on their way to the lighthouse with 3v1 clutches but now I find watching any streamer no matter how funny and entertaining they personally are, boring because of the game. But I can tell you not buying more than the base game was a GREAT decision and it will take a lot to get me back on Bungies side

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                      • Edited by A Syrian Refugee: 9/20/2017 7:50:32 PM
                        4v4 crucible is better than 6v6 in the same way that 4v4 Halo was better than Halo Social Slayer 6v6 You guys HATED the idea of 4v4 from the start before it was even implemented so nothing was going to change your minds anyway Shoot most of the people saying 4v4 sucks are the same people who have hated on Destinys pvp from day 1. You guys hate no matter what Just a bunch of whiners

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