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Edited by AlieN_x_HuMaN: 9/20/2017 11:23:30 AM
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Destiny 2 is Bad - A Long Post From a Long Time Veteran Player

[b]**This is a sub account that I started for D2. My main account psn is Kyllap. For those wondering. [/b] I've been doing some thinking on this whole playing through Destiny 2, and I have to admit that I don't like this game. I feel that it is a shell of what we had with TTK and RoI, up until the last stretch of D1. Let me say that I have played through D2 on 2 characters (both solo and with a team), I have a large clan, I've done all the activities in the game (including flawless trials and the raid), every strike, etc etc. I'm not 'salty' about this or that. I simply think this game isn't what I thought it was and I am hugely disappointed. Let me list some things I don't like and describe why I don't like them. - 4v4 Crucible. When this was announced I thought, 'eh whatever. It'll be interesting and fun.' And it was fun...for a week. And then I started to miss having 6 people in chat in a fireteam dropping supers and capping zones and talking shit. With this 4v4 only, there are only...4 players....lol... It's just a shell of what it was. Just team shooting. Sure you can pull off some plays here and there, but in the end it's just bad. - Enhanced Aim Assist. Is there any skill left in Destiny? Does it even require skill? Take your crosshairs and hover over an enemy and watch what happened when another enemy crosses your path... The gun literally follows them for feet. Yes there was AA in D1, but this feels like Skylanders. - Actual Content. This has been an issue in Destiny since Destiny was Destiny. And it's STILL an issue. The story spans four planets, but is bland and forgettable. The missions don't scale in difficulty with a fireteam so you just blow right through them. I had to play it again solo just to somewhat enjoy it. Which is laughable in a game that promotes group play and clans and teamwork. Then once you get it done there is zero reason to do Lost Sectors and Adventures unless you care about story simply for the story. Which would be ok, but again there are zero rewards. Why wouldn't they incorporate every single one of these side things into quests, or into the story line? In fact where is the quest tab at all?? Nowhere. Because there are like 4 total quests to give you a MIDA and some other bullshit you'll never use. A MIDA?? From year 1 of Destiny?? Jesus man. I don't get it. - Subclasses. The same three. I need not say more. - Trials of MIDA Multi Tool..... Let me say that I actually enjoy 4v4 Trials. I like the Nine concept and I do think the gear and weapons look cool. I even like the horse at the end. What I HATE is that Bungie has created a meta of multi tools in ONE WEEK. If you use anything other than a MIDA and a Uriel's you're out gunned. So everyone uses that and that's it. In one week. And now the endless 'balance' patches begin which will send you on a goose chase for weapons you dismantled long ago because they sucked ass but now they're op! Same old bullshit. - Graphics. Can you believe this?! I'm complaining about the graphics in Destiny. But I'm not talking about the world designs, particle effects, or skyboxes. No. I'm referring to character models, armor, and shaders. They all look like garbage. Not because the design is bad, but because they have sacrificed character detail to enhance the world. And while I liked it at first, after a while you just want your guardian to look cool, right? But in no way is the same appeal there that D1 had. Everything aside from like 4 shaders looks bland and boring. Emotes are all boring and recycled. The rendering of our guardians is jus bland and honestly kinda fuzzy. - The Raid. To absolute HELL with this raid. It's worse than Kings Fall. I actually enjoyed KF with a good team. But this. This is garbage. Far too many annoying mechanics. Too involved engagements. Checkpoints which need to be obtained again??! Yes I know that opening the door is easy but why must I do that every time or walk some stupid maze? This raid has no replay ability factor for me. I have lead and guided many players through D1 raids many times. I loved it. This raid makes me want to trade in the game. I hate it. The end. *- Thought I would add that running out of ammo DURING a firefight is absolutely ridiculous. And it happens so frequently. I've said on several occasions to my team that I'm just out of ammo.... I will end with this: Bungie told everyone on stage that they wanted to unlock the fun of Destiny. They wanted to make it accessible to a larger audience. They wanted people to experience the raids. Well I can tell you for sure that no one is in the slightest interested in using Guided Games for this raid, or anything like it. I wouldn't even use GG for this week's Nightfall, which is again super annoying and damn near impossible for a majority of players. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Let's make a super casual game and then throw The Leviathan at everyone along with a NF like this.... Gooood job Bungie. Ok I'm done.

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  • I like Destiny 2 but I do hope that Bungie reads this because it kinda talks about everything that REALLY needs fixing. There's dickall to grind for... I mean, where's the chase? The hunt for the great gear? There is literally nothing. D1 kept people going because the story was bad but people still wanted answers and for the loot. Within 2 weeks you pretty much have everything! I mean... How is a loot-based game meant to survive with nothing to grind for? Did they forget the most basic thing that made D1 great?

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    • Agree and disagree w some, a lot of your problems w the game seem like they come from your own inability to play well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • Edited by アーヴィング☆: 9/21/2017 4:49:37 PM
        Destiny 2 came out 16 days ago. Give it time to better itself it's too early to start complaining. Yes it has its faults. Mida is not an issue just the fact that it has high aim assist. You can win a majority of the time against one mida but not a team of them so don't challenge because you won't win. If improvement doesn't happen after this month then go ahead and complain. In all honesty I have been having fun with the raid and nightfall but that fun is mostly due to people knowing what they're doing. I do admit it's very difficult to have fun if there's someone bringing the group down or keeping the group at a raid part for hours when it should only take 20 minutes. The campaign was great for me I liked it watched all the cutscenes and they were nice. The subclasses you're right on that part. I haven't used dawnblade since I unlocked storm trance and nova bomb. Some exotics are fun and some are just sitting in my collection never to be used which is kinda sad. This is just my opinion though and we don't both speak for the community but I do believe that it's best to give the game a little time for improvement rather than just lynching it. You have some points that I agree with and some that I don't. I'll still be enjoying the game it's way better to play with friends honestly if you're a solo player it's kinda hard to have fun.

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          Graphics are much better than D1 get some glasses, story is pretty great short yea but at least this one had a story this time, raid is fun and easy you're just trash

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        • Good writeup and I agree on alot of points. However my biggest concern is the timers. Just plain fuk off with that shit man. The Nightfall was a nightmare for veteran players and the fact that the end boss hides for 30 seconds a time sometimes and takes little damage means if you dont have a team full of supers 2x - 3x times each your going to run out of time to complete it. On the other hand you could just cheese it and do the unlimited time glitch and go into the final boss with 13 minutes instead of 6-7 and be able to complete it easier. Its like the made the base game cheesy as hell and than decided lets make the meat of the game annoying as hell and piss off player hoping they will grind nonstop to complete it. I had many players say screw it just not worth the time.

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          • I agree with a lot of points, PvP is just teams running in groups and team shooting. Shaders are bullshit, none of them look good mixed together so I just make my guardian have the same shader across the board just like D1. I don't really have an issue with the new weapon set-up. I enjoy a challenge so the Raid I'm totally cool with, I like the difficulty, makes me feel really accomplished by completing it. I hate games that are really easy, D1 content was real easy in my opinion, (what I played of it, I got bored of D1 really quickly) This weeks Nightfall is a little ridiculous, the boss wastes HUGE amounts of time disappearing. Easy fix could be placing anomalies in the end fight that spawn every time he disappears. I haven't tried Trials yet so I cannot comment on those. There a definitely ways this game can improve but I prefer it over Destiny 1, especially if we compare launch D1 to Current D2. Launch D1 was LAUGHABLE, awful game. I bought the Collectors Edition of D1 and after the first 2-3 weeks didn't play it again until the first two expansions dropped because I was so dissappointed. At least with Destiny 2 I could see myself playing this more frequently.

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            • There is just no replayable content in my opinion. I'm not a fan of the strikes and I've done all the quests. My clan don't want to run the raid (neither do I) and the nightfall is not fun. I'm only 276 but I feel like there is nothing else for me to do.

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              • Is "worse than kings fall" really that terrible a thing? I didn't realize that raid was so frowned upon. It was my favorite out of all of em no doubt.

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              • I agree they made nightfalls and strikes not fun. I really enjoyed them now I don't.

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              • I remember replying to plenty of comments you made in these forums back during destiny's run. I don't think you are salty at all and I think you make excellent points. I play this game for about an hour to an hour and a half on most evenings and I don't think I have spent more than 3 hours on it during the weekends. I finished the campaign with my hunter. His light is 210. I am working on my titan right now and I still haven't finished the campaign yet. I haven't jumped into one crucible match yet, and I haven't even attempted a strike either and here we are on 9/21/17 when I started playing on 9/6. Truthfully, I haven't wanted to because if I play for any amount of time that I have said, the game starts to feel like a chore and if the game feels like a chore then what is the point.

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              • Well said. They got big problems in mudville to say the least. I believe old Casey had struck out.

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              • Agree with most of what op said. Honestly D2 should have been an expansion for D1, how do people think world of warcraft has lasted so long? It's because, for the most part, they didn't blank everything out and start from scratch just for the hell of it, that is why cata was not received well. Bungie is clearly only interested in milking as much money out of the community as possible through micro-transactions and consumables, the entire game feels hollow, like they tried to recapture the magic of Halo but put into a milk-able franchise. Just take a closer look at the design of everything, it is so reminiscent of Halo 2/3 it's almost uncanny(or pure laziness): Cabal=brutes, fallen=covenant, hive=flood, ghost=Cortana, guardian=spartan, Gaul=Tartarus, the plot is ripped straight our of H2, parts of the level design look like reskinned H2/3 models. Despite all the glaring issues mechanically with this game what do the hipster devs at bungie focus on first? Removing content that a small minority of the community consider "offensive" because it looks sort of like something they don't like and they can't handle the world not aligning with their progressive religion, the fact that was the first major change in this game is -blam!-ing nuts.

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              • You forgot to mention how broken Crucible is still. All the matches I have played were against warlocks, to be honest. Hunters are still the same as usual, Titans are the same(only thing was added was a useless shield) and Warlocks with a healing and damage circle that can be abused every minute....... Crucible is not fun anymore and it is a waste of time to even complete the Milestone for it. I only enjoyed Destiny 1's both pve and pvp.

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              • tldr. no it isn't. Its a good game.

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                • I agree with everything you said well said my friend! You are PSN and I am XBL but I do not care right now I agree with this. I hate the fact that they nerf guns just buff the others stop nerfing weapons and I need ammo to play a shooter. Once again well said my friend! Bravo Bravo!

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                • Edited by Cell: 9/21/2017 3:01:17 PM
                  I agree with you on like 75% of the topics. I enjoyed the story and still enjoy running patrols/PE. I have always hated trials so I have opinion there but as for crucible i miss being able to lone wolf in modes like control and clash. And above all with crucible, I miss rumble so much. I miss not having to rely on teammates not to drag my score down like they inevitably do. Also I don't mind how characters look except warlocks have no good looking helmets (imo) Edit I forgot to say this. I don't think D2 is a disappointment. Do I think it didn't live up to the hype? I think it definitely could be better but it's not a disappointment to me. I haven't had internet for about a week now and I'm missing playing it although I've gone through dark souls one like 10 times now. That game has a massive replay factor

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                • Edited by Dayknight: 9/21/2017 2:47:13 PM
                  Agree about the shader thing and designs of some armors. Haven't done the raid yet. On the fence about 4 v 4. Just havnt played alot of pvp. Graphics aren't a big deal to me honestly. I am having fun with d2. Are there things I dont like yea of course there are, but overall im satisfied.

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                • [quote]Ok I'm done.[/quote] As far as I'm concerned, you were done at "veteran player". What a waste of a truly meaningful word lmfao.

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                • Missing Jason Statem right about now

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                • If you dont like it dont play it. I find the game similar to D1 with a few changes like you cant by weapon ammo from xur the 4v4 pvp the raid requires team work so half the community cant cheese it. most people that complain about the raid is because they had a hard time doing or cant do it at all.

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                  • Muted.

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                  • I'm trying to think something witty to say. But I can't come up with anything. So I'll say this. I agree the raid does kinda blow. Metas ARE destiny. Honestly I'm bored writing this I don't even have an argument. Just stop playing destiny

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                  • I appreciate the feedback. Reading so many posts like these starting day 2 with the whole shader debacle. Really glad I waited for reviews and forum feedback before I bought this game. Now I'm certain I will not buy this version of the game.

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                    • I have more time played in Destiny 2 than a lot of people so far, so I feel confident giving my opinion. Crucible. It sucked at first, but then I realized it's all about teamwork and yes team firing. But I don't think it's because of 4v4, I thinks it's because of the revamp to clans. Almost everyone is in a clan, so most people in Crucible have at least one other person in there fireteam. Which inevitably makes people work together much much more. But once you realize that you have to stick near your teammates and coordinate it gets much better. Hopefully Rumble will become a thing soon, will make a lot of people happy. As far as the raid is concerned it really is the easiest raid, except for maybe Crota. People keeps saying it takes perfection but it really doesn't, as the raid has already been 4 manned. I had to 5 man the final boss on my second raid because a member dc'ed. More than anything your light really does matter, as it makes every part of the raid doable in one phase. Except the gauntlet obviously but even that is harder once your team learns a strat, I've had to learn 2 so far for it. But there is a very simple strat for each area and very soon I'll be doing guided games with my clan for it.

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                    • Wow. Not sure what to say. I have quite the opposite opinion of D2. I've also played the hell out of D1 and am only light 255 on D2. I get in probably 4-6 hours per day mainly due to being retired. I love it so far. My goal is to get as close to 300 on each of the 3 guardians. That'll take me awhile. I haven't attempted the NF or raid yet, but I'm not in a rush. For all the reasons you don't like parts of the game, I love it. I wasn't sure about 4v4 in PvP, and still aren't. I'll know for sure once IB comes out next month and I actually put some time into PvP. I see some guardians share your opinion, mainly about the game being too easy for you. Again, not sure what to say. Maybe try Dark Souls in whatever the hardest mode is. D2 is perfect for me. I feel like I'm progressing every day, I'm getting new loot everyday, and I'm enjoying the hell out of the game everyday. The Mida quest is turning out to be fun as hell and can't wait to get my hands on my favorite weapon from D1. Memories people, don't you have those? We've got a lot of years left for the Destiny world. If you don't like it, move on.

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                      • Edited by Floorrat: 9/21/2017 12:21:02 PM
                        If you don't like it, leave and go play another game. No game will ever please everybody. Bye. have a nice life.

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