Just wondering what all went into deciding to go with 4vs4 in PVP. I know that I am not one of the biggest players in PVP but do enjoy it from time to time. But my most enjoyable moments came from being able to play it with my Raid team of 6. It gave us another option to play together other than just the raid. Don't get me wrong. I am greatly looking forward to see all the changes made in Destiny 2 first hand. IF the traditional team death match/clash is making a return I just don't feel it will be the same with just 4vs4. I have heard that it was lowered to possibly help with match making and to allow the more competitive players a chance to supposedly played more skilled without being killed from the side or out of now where while killing another player. However, I look at that last part just as ridiculous. I agree it sucks to die that way but I see that as lame reason. It takes more skill to not die that way. In my personal opinion PvP in Destiny 2 and other games is forever now trying to make it big on the competitive side in hopes of having their game accepted into the MLG. Not everyone plays it for these reasons. And when a game gets geared this way it takes the fun out of it for casual players. I think Trials was the best option for the competitive aspect of PvP. As much as I would like to visit the Light House just once to see it for myself but I happy with not going. I am not into the competitive side of it. I run the bounties and the moment that's done I'm finished with it. My personal choice is normally just plain old clash. And if it is returning I feel it will suffer at such a lower setting. But then too I have always personally really enjoyed a death match/clash type of game play with bigger maps and more players. The Chaos that comes with it was always fun to me. It really just kept you on your toes. One actual question and just my personal opinion.