There is no reason to not complete raids in 2 hours or less. I've taken news through VoG, CE, KF in 1.5 hours or less. Usually 45 minutes is normal. News that have average skill and listen.
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That's what we should tell newbs. "Be sure to only set aside about 45 minutes of free time for the raid. You're extremely likely to find experienced raiders who can teach you King's Fall in about that time, especially on LFG. So if you've got chores to do or you need to cook for your kids? No worries. The highly experienced and infinitely patient guardians out there can breeze you through it. Just be sure to have your emblem equipped and be sure to smash that like button bruh!"
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Not saying that at all. Simply saying if news can basically listen and cake walk to success. No reason semi or experienced players can't. Keep in mind all of those cases were 2 capable players who've beat it a few times including me.
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What you're saying is true. But what the OP is saying is safe advice. Set aside ample time to limit interruptions. Anything can happen in a raid and it isn't necessarily a good thing for someone to realistically expect to go into a raid and clear it in under 2 hours. 45 mins - that's a good group that knows their shit and didn't need hand holding. 1 1/2 hour - still really good. Only a few adjustments. The team might just need to get to know their strengths and weaknesses. 2 hrs - about average for most raids sure. But that's also assuming it's still a good group. 3 hrs - here's your realistic LFG raid time folks. Stuff can go great right up until Aksis and Oryx. Then it's like someone put a turd in a wood chipper. 4 hrs - truly not ideal. Things are not going good and you've asked yourself many times why you haven't left. 5 hrs - why did you stay this long??? 6 hrs - Skolas year one, hold the cheese with no burn. 7 hrs - You are world's first King's Fall. Congratulations.
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Did vault in 39 minutes last week. Albeit sans challenges. If you can't do in an hour. It's time to kick ppl.
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[quote]Did vault in 39 minutes last week. Albeit sans challenges. If you can't do in an hour. It's time to kick ppl.[/quote] I'm never kicking anyone
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I only kick people who insist on kicking other people. I also don't play with people who have the "git gud r git kicked, skrub!" mentality. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Makes for much more enjoyable games. I'd rather "struggle bus" at Vosik II for three hours with a raid noob to help him learn the flow and mechanics of the encounter than play with five other cryhards who think their collective conception was immaculate.
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With challenges it can be done in an hour.