Plain and simple. It's already a sniper/sidearm meta. If you take away ammo from sidearms people will switch to the low risk sniper because you are less likely to die and loose your special ammo... is this what you want? Is it really more fun to play against a team of hard scoping campers? As much as I hate shotgun meta the hand cannon sniper meta is worse imo.
For the people who say "what's wrong with a sniper meta?" What's wrong with a sidearm meta? Yes I can counter a sniper, I can also counter a sidearm with my primary. I just don't want it to shift to another ohk special meta. I've always relied on my primary and when everyone abuses a ohk special, no matter what type, the game feels cheap and cheezy
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I don't mind going back to sniper meta year 1. Snipers don't have access to radar ADS and a smart player knows to flank and use grenades
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Edited by SlyBlueCat: 2/26/2017 8:14:34 PMEveryone will be sniping. [url]http://www.hahastop.com/pictures/Cat_Sniper.htm[/url] or Let's just all hunker down and pray deep that all the snipers catch herpes.
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Edited by TheTommieC: 2/24/2017 10:54:32 PM[i]Five words:[/i] [i]Fusion. For. Life.[/i]
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Lose = not to win Loose = baggy pants
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It is true that this can be annoying. But hardscopers are pretty easy prey 90% of the time and most wont even disengage after they got hit by multiple shots of a pulse or Scout and just accept their death. Like I said, hardscopers are annoying but with a little change to your playstyle they become easy prey most of the time.
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Edited by Spartan Raptorx: 2/26/2017 11:14:25 AMMore snipers would be free easy kills. All the bad players who only use current metas wouldn't be able to snipe unless their sniper was loaded with aim assist perks. Besides, it takes more skill to be a sniper than to grab a shotty and slide around the map. And all sniper rifles are already in check.
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I mean, snipers are in check by any longer than close range primary gun. Lets not forget the inefficient ammo and ridiculous flinch. All outlier snipers aside ( NLB/Icebreaker).
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Ironically, the change in the meta INCREASED special availability. Allowing for 7 shots to start and 4 per crate, abd assuming they coukd get one crate per cycle, a 10-minute match used to allow a player 23 rounds of sniper. Now, they could secure up to 43. If they can preserve their stash... a nightmare awaits. The system I've proposed (in multiple places) allows players to retain special on death, but limits the supply. Since you get 4-5 rounds to start and 2-3 per chest, you only have access to to 12-17 rounds of special per game. Ergo, you cannot use it as a primary. The current meta makes that very doable.
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GOOD snipers should be meta they actually take a small bit of skill to use they need to get rid of spraying snipers and sidearms should be nerfed Ur and NLB shouldn't be touched bring It back to year 1 alone with everything else to be honest taken King is when things started going down hill and people need to stop complaining about being shotgunned and just learn how to counter same with snipers and if everything else loses its ammo then so should sidearms or how about nothing does back to year 1 people we need to push for things to go back to being not pure cow $hit
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Unless things have changed, a good way to counter a sniper is a scout. I love that snipers are stubbornly committed to something they aren't going to get and dying, and then dying more. Fill the lanes and protect them from them, ruin their day.
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Sniper meta sounds like easy kills to me. Better than there being a shotgun warrior Titan skating towards you at all times.
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The only change that needs to be made to side arms, you shouldn't keep the ammo you've picked up when you die.
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[quote] If you take away ammo from sidearms people will switch to the low risk sniper because you are less likely to die and loose your special ammo... is this what you want?[/quote] You'll see a rise of weapons that either regen special or are specials in primary slots. People are using sidearms because they keep their ammo and special ammo is highly prioritized. [quote]As much as I hate shotgun meta the hand cannon sniper meta is worse imo.[/quote] IMO a shotgun meta is the worst meta you can have.
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I can adapt to anything but I am just too bad at sniping to stay in the game.
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Soooo. Who wants to go on a camping trip?
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Fusions need some buff. They were pretty good before the patch (I'm a fusion rifler), but you cannot use them now.
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Sniping? Few people have y3 IB and its not that good. Been nerfed hard Nlb is getting tweaked
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You mean icebreaker meta?
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Nah. I been shooting da mans since vanilla. I'll keep shooting the mans till the servers shut down.
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As a sidearm user pre-patch, I would be willing to deal with losing ammo. I use my primary (MIDA) mostly anyway and only use my sidearm (Havoc Pigeon) as a self defense tool. I don't like how sidearms have become meta. Hand cannons and snipers will become meta. That is a pain because of their damage per hit.
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Less likely to die but more likely to loose your ammo... People miss alot with snipers
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Agreed man- no more nerfs. Not even a sidearm ammo nerf, just buff everything back- including all of our special ammo. Make it like year one again.
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sidearms should not keep ammo on death. if you think otherwise you need to stop relying on your special and pick up a primary for once.