So it just came to me... Sunbreakers do have a cooldown on caterize right? 3 seconds... Hammers take forever to throw in my experience 2 blade melees to 1 hammer? Isn't it about 3 seconds?

Wait, shotguns can't crit anymore? What about the Chaperone? That'll make it completely useless since it can't OHK to the body

I WILL STOP YOU! BLADEDANCERS, PREPARE TO MEET THE FIST OF HAVOC!

Any nerf to this game is asinine. Because all the ones crying nerf are going to cry whenever that gets changed. It will never end. Somewhere in the back of thier head they whole heartedly believe that the change will somehow make them more efficient as a player. I've been saying since vanilla you can't nerf the player. For example everyone was so sure that thorns nerf would somehow give them a better chance at winning. Lol not when good players take pride in precision kills. The only nerf to thorn that I have personally ever noticed to any degree was the recent nerf to thorns range. All that did was mess with its accuracy. Still do well with it and still get hate mail for it.

Then it should apply to all supers, especially those with which can extend their own ttk and succeed beyond their specialized ranges This nerf was applied to the squishiest of supers Horrible logic and testing is the result Your little PR spin is sheer ignorance and inability to think. Even now, not all supers can be countered properly. They merely picked the weakest to please crybabies or extreme bias reflected on bungies internal teams

Genuine idiot here. You make this argument against Blade and yet they made no comment about touching the health regen capabilities of Sunbreakers. Blades can't one-shot anything with an overshield (Sunbreakers can), Blade doesn't regen from grenade kills (Sunbreakers do), Blade has no reliable distance kill ability with its super only short range (Sunbreakers have hammers), you have to pop blade in close proximity because everyone runs as soon as they hear a super pop, this has resulted in more trades and death because of its lack of range super (Sunbreakers have the most straight line speed in the game, using the actual super of Blade to move faster drastically uses it up where as Sunbreaker lasts significantly longer because of the speed boost from jumping. There is no argument here, nerfing Blade is due to ignorance, plain and simple. Dude even demonstrated he had no idea what he was doing by his own crucible knowledge. RIP Destiny.

This reverse powercreep (power drain?) is what led the game to be like this. Nerfing the crap outta primaries led to special weapons dominating. Nerfing snipers to the ground led No Land Beyond from being one of the worst exotics to one of the best. Etc, etc, etc. IT HAS TO STOP!!!

It's a bad nerf, it's an unneeded nerf, period. Potential problems? Get real. Lets not pretend they actually play test anything, the players do that. This was one dude in a cheeky, online friendly environment, nowhere near a pub, that happened to notice something after his player character bit the dust. Your assessment is not critical thinking, it's speculation. You have nothing to support whether it will be easier to shut down, or harder. The logical guess is easier based on the sound reasoning that this particular individual was more than likely using a nerfed shotgun at the time. And heaven forbid we actually let supers be super. Someone might die in a video game or something.

It does have sound logic, but it falls on these deaf ears. Think of it this way: When Bungie tones down one thing they realize they have to tone down something else, AKA "nerf", in order to balance. They've been at this for far too long and thus has turned a large portion of the community against them because they're slowing the gameplay down to a snail's pace and herding their players to create their own balance with each new "meta balance". If they really wanted balance they'd try to actually buff their way to glory. If they did that then we'd see some real diversity and action in BOTH PvP and PvE. Sure you can't totally go the opposite and keep buffing up up up or else it'd be just as boring as the twitch shooter CoD, but with the current state of PvP and PvE this game is already so slow that Torgue's Grandma could gum someone to death faster than a Guardian could kill with an assault rifle. They really shouldn't have to keep nerfing, quite frankly I'm surprised Bungie has kept at this method for so long when so many hate this method of balance. It doesn't solve anything other than to peeve people off and pad out gametime. EDIT: Just wait for people to complain about Defender Titans, Voidlocks, Bow Hunters, Assault Rifles again, two burst pulse rifles, NLB, sidearms, Uni Remote, Invective... what'll you think Bungie will do? Downgrade them to FORCE balance not encourage it. Doubt they'll need to use their brains for that.

I like all the salty bladedancers. Everyone knows it's the crybaby subclass that gives hunters a bad name.

Someone got dropped on there head as a child. Sorry hate to hear that good luck in life

I save my fist of havoc for any blade dancer or stormcaller. I'll go whole games with out using it if I never run into one. So if a blade dancer runs into me they still die.

Can someone please make a pie chart of the all the nerfs in Destiny versus the Buffs. I'd love to see that :)