The clever dragon is perfect, shotguns are perfect. Its not that they're inherently broken, its that everything else sucks major ass. Buff the archetypes that we have almost never seen be dominant in crucible. I would love to try exiles student in pvp without feeling like I'm tickling the enemy. I would love to use a high ROF shotgun and not feel like I'm shooting dust. As for autos, I've spent 2 and a half years dismantling or vaulting some pretty nasty rolls, and I think it would be fun to have them be competitive again. Rant over, if you disagree that's fine, let me know what you guys think... Edit: when I say the clever dragon is "perfect", I only mean the base gun and Its arch type. Obviously HC rounds make it a little to strong, especially since grasp can't roll with that perk (not sure about others). But, the archetype is in a good state. You can outgun pulses with hand cannons close to medium, and the range fall off isn't very discouraging. Thanks for all your feedback, It's nice to know I'm not the only one who wants the "archetypes in the shadows" to be usable.