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[quote]Knowledge suppressing POS[/quote]"poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit. [quote]Ben handled himself very well.[/quote]...the video conveniently cut out anything he said after the principal [?] excused the students.
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  • [quote]it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote] Is that your normal starting point for a conversation? Just because someone disagrees with you that automatically makes it stupid? You know, instead of insulting someone, if you actually try to have a decent conversation with them, that will accomplish a lot more. And if a group constantly saying the same thing automatically makes it wrong, then I guess global warming is wrong, and Trump will actually end up being a great president. You can see the whole video on YouTube. Ben continues to talk after the principal excuses anyone who would like to leave. If you(as in everyone) just admit that you could in fact be wrong, and actually listen to other views, you might just hear something that will change your mind. Or you might not change your mind. But the point is that if you are willing to have an open mind, you might just hear something that will actually be good for the world, instead of mindlessly attacking someone for their differing views.

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    [quote][quote]it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote] Is that your normal starting point for a conversation? Just because someone disagrees with you that automatically makes it stupid? You know, instead of insulting someone, if you actually try to have a decent conversation with them, that will accomplish a lot more. And if a group constantly saying the same thing automatically makes it wrong, then I guess global warming is wrong, and Trump will actually end up being a great president. You can see the whole video on YouTube. Ben continues to talk after the principal excuses anyone who would like to leave. If you(as in everyone) just admit that you could in fact be wrong, and actually listen to other views, you might just hear something that will change your mind. Or you might not change your mind. But the point is that if you are willing to have an open mind, you might just hear something that will actually be good for the world, instead of mindlessly attacking someone for their differing views.[/quote] "poor people are poor because they're bad with money" IS bullshit, though. It entirely ignores a whole ton of things that cause poor people to be perpetually poor. Not everyone is blessed with the same potential and conditions to succeed. If you come from a poor, black, single-parent home and went to a shitty, underfunded, overcrowded school and lived in a poor, crime-ridden area, that's a whole lot working against you in order to overcome it and not be poor, yourself. Poor people aren't poor because they're bad with money; poor people are poor because they DON'T HAVE MONEY. That's how being poor works. I have no problem being wrong. I'm wrong on a lot of things. That's how we learn. But pretending "poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is a valid argument is a waste of everyone's time.

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  • [quote]poor people are poor because they DON'T HAVE MONEY.[/quote] yes they are poor because they don't have money. That is the definition of poor. What we are taking about however is WHY they are poor. Try to name me one person who is phenomenal with money, but who is still poor. There are exceptions for those who have a disability or something similar, which Ben points out in the full video, but people who are poor and use the excuse of "because that's how I grew up" are doing themselves a disservice. A wonderful example is Ben Carson. Grew up in terrible conditions and had a very rough childhood. But look at him now. A wonderful doctor who previously ran for president, and for a while had a big following. Yes, life can be hard for some, but that doesn't mean that that gives you an excuse to throw your life away. Even if you work at Walmart your entire life, if you manage your money well, you will be able to sustain yourself. Meanwhile those who live in small 1 bedroom apartments and constantly bemoan the fact that they can't pay the rent will always have the newest iPhone for everyone in their family and will go out to eat several times a week. And this is coming from someone who has known families like this. It's simple financing. Don't buy stuff that you can't afford, and figure out your priorities. Don't buy that Big Mac if you have to scrounge around for enough money to pay the rent.

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  • [quote]"poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote]Not an argument. [quote]...the video conveniently cut out anything he said after the principal [?] excused the students.[/quote]You can find the full video on youtube where Ben goes on to speak to anyone in the house with an open mind.

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  • [quote]Knowledge suppressing POS "poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote] Enlighten us, then. What are the causes of poverty and how is it best alleviated?

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  • [quote]The causes of poverty include changing trends in a country’s economy, lack of education, high divorce rate which causes feminization of poverty, having a culture of poverty, overpopulation, epidemic diseases such as AIDS and malaria,[1] and environmental problems such as lack of rainfall.[2][3] The United States reduced poverty in the elderly with the creation of the social security program[4] Almost 50 percent of people in the world today live on less than $2.50 per day.[5] The poverty rate among seniors in the United States is at 9 percent as of 2010.[citation needed] In 1960 the official poverty rate among the elderly was 35 percent.[6] The Netherlands offers a universal pension and leads the world with a 1.7 percent poverty rate among the elderly.[citation needed] Extreme poverty may affect the lifespan and the lack of money via some type of pension system increases the poverty rate among the elderly worldwide.[7] Extreme weather may be a cause of poverty in many countries. Drought, rainfall and flooding are some of the biggest causes of poverty by weather. When natural disasters do not gain media attention raising money becomes more difficult. This is made worse when governments spend money in the capitals instead of the poorest areas which need it most.[8] Tony Blair in a BBC discussion states that the cause of poverty is inequality of opportunity.[9][/quote] Notice how it doesn't say "because they spend it all on stupid shit."

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  • >why the old arent as poor Cool story now talk about working class people

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  • [quote][quote]Knowledge suppressing POS"poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote] Enlighten us, then. What are the causes of poverty and how is it best alleviated?[/quote] By taking the rich man's money duh!

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  • I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true.

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  • [quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true.[/quote] "Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things: 1) a conservative bullshit talking point Or 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problems Either way it's shit.

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  • He mentioned the lottery thing, which is true. If you get $1,000,000+ you won't be poor if you're good with money. If you're bad with it, however, you will. People good with money will succeed, while those bad with money won't.

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  • You're right he left off the second part of why people are poor. 1). People are poor because they're bad with money. 2). People are poor because they make shit life decions. [spoiler]But Max will never know because I'm muted.[/spoiler]

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  • [quote][quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true.[/quote] "Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things: 1) a conservative bullshit talking point Or 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problems Either way it's shit.[/quote] Or...OR it's because they spend it as fast as they get it. I'm sure it doesn't represent all people, but it does some so it's not bullshit and it's not a talking point. You don't hear conservatives going out in droves using this like you do with liberals and their "make America sick again". Lol now that's a talking point.

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  • When youre poor, you literally can't afford to save money. That's what makes you poor.

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  • [quote]When youre poor, you literally can't afford to save money. That's what makes you poor.[/quote]Can you imagine? LOL. "Yeah, I was going to increase my company's contribution to my 401k, but I decided to buy a new 4K tv, instead." ~no poor person, ever

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  • [quote][quote][quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true.[/quote] "Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things: 1) a conservative bullshit talking point Or 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problems Either way it's shit.[/quote] Or...OR it's because they spend it as fast as they get it. I'm sure it doesn't represent all people, but it does some so it's not bullshit and it's not a talking point. You don't hear conservatives going out in droves using this like you do with liberals and their "make America sick again". Lol now that's a talking point.[/quote] They spend it as fast as they get it because they're -blam!-ing poor.

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  • So you watch any of my posted videos yet? Or anyone's videos? Lol

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  • [quote][quote][quote][quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true.[/quote] "Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things: 1) a conservative bullshit talking point Or 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problems Either way it's shit.[/quote] Or...OR it's because they spend it as fast as they get it. I'm sure it doesn't represent all people, but it does some so it's not bullshit and it's not a talking point. You don't hear conservatives going out in droves using this like you do with liberals and their "make America sick again". Lol now that's a talking point.[/quote] They spend it as fast as they get it because they're -blam!-ing poor.[/quote] Oh max. Lol

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  • [quote][quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true."Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things:1) a conservative bullshit talking pointOr 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problemsEither way it's shit.Or...OR it's because they spend it as fast as they get it. I'm sure it doesn't represent all people, but it does some so it's not bullshit and it's not a talking point. You don't hear conservatives going out in droves using this like you do with liberals and their "make America sick again". Lol now that's a talking point.They spend it as fast as they get it because they're -blam!-ing poor.[/quote] Oh max. Lol[/quote]I don't know what you think being poor is. If I don't make enough money to support myself, I'm -blam!-ing poor. If I'm bringing home money and have to spend it all on bills and necessities, I'm -blam!-ing poor. That's how being poor works. Do you think poor people have a shit-ton of extra money they're just frittering away?

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  • [quote][quote][quote]I think it's only conservative bullshit because you don't like it. There are a few things that I could consider liberal bullshit. I doesn't make it less true."Poor people are poor because they're bad with money" is one of two things:1) a conservative bullshit talking pointOr 2) grossly misrespenting the issues of socioeconomic problemsEither way it's shit.Or...OR it's because they spend it as fast as they get it. I'm sure it doesn't represent all people, but it does some so it's not bullshit and it's not a talking point. You don't hear conservatives going out in droves using this like you do with liberals and their "make America sick again". Lol now that's a talking point.They spend it as fast as they get it because they're -blam!-ing poor.[/quote] Oh max. Lol[/quote]I don't know what you think being poor is. If I don't make enough money to support myself, I'm -blam!-ing poor. If I'm bringing home money and have to spend it all on bills and necessities, I'm -blam!-ing poor. That's how being poor works. Do you think poor people have a shit-ton of extra money they're just frittering away?[/quote] Hey I already let this go. Now What about the videos you don't watch?

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  • Here's the full video. The principle(I'm assuming) let the students who want to leave go ahead and leave and the students who want to stay were allowed to stay.

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  • [quote][quote]Knowledge suppressing POS[/quote]"poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit. [quote]Ben handled himself very well.[/quote]...the video conveniently cut out anything he said after the principal [?] excused the students.[/quote] He literally explains the that if you're poor temporarily then you were dealt a bad hand but got through it but if you're poor your whole life then you suck with money. I don't see how that's refutable.

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  • Because that is a GROSS oversimplification of a much more complex issue. Job availability, cyclical incarceration/legal action, self-perpetuating poverty, etc.

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  • [quote]"poor people are poor because they're bad with money" isn't "knowledge" it's a line of conservative bullshit.[/quote] No, it's common knowledge......

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  • It's common rhetoric.*

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