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Edited by JungleofTaxemes: 12/10/2016 2:37:38 PM
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For anyone who thinks because the grasp/CD is better than other primaries and the way to deal with that is a range or other nerf: If hawksaw 3 bursted again more consistently, if HCs were a bit more accurate, and autos were actually a threat up close, the grasp would become much harder to use and have a smaller effective niche. It is used now because it's an easy 4-5 burst kill with an occasional .8s TTK with the rare 3 burst, as well as being able to fight at a good range so you don't feel completely useless. Other guns have optimal TTKs that are faster than the practical TTK of the grasp (note this difference). If guns either got better optimal TTKs (autos) or some guns went back to when they were good but not OP (i.e unchanged optimal TTK but can hit it more often) we would have a functional primary meta again. The grasp type works well against people sliding/skating, special, movement and supers, but it doesn't insta melt people. It is what a primary in this game should be- effective at most ranges as long as you're not getting shot back at, has a niche it shines in (people who don't know what a primary is get countered hard by a grasp), and stands a chance against other stuff in the sandbox. ALL primaries should be like the grasp. Its optimal TTK isn't even that fast relative to Destiny's movement speed. If autos got their crit multiplier back with a little bodyshot nerf for doctrine they would have .8s TTKs up close if you could crit, and wouldn't be doo doo when trying to use at range as long as your shot was on point. All primaries need to be somewhat effective outside their intended range. Less good and much harder to use, but not useless. If autos got buffed HCs could get accuracy back without ending up with a HC meta. All of this would make special users have to actually think about when to use a special over a primary.
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  • No thanks, I'd rather have SKILLED play (aka 1+ TTK)

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  • You can't have 1+ TTK in a game with this movement speed and abilities. That is the whole point, it does not work.

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  • My friend actually mentioned this to me while I was writing this post that TTK needed to be adjusted and I believe this would greatly help the issue. I had some people telling me they wanted Pulse Rifles to have the same damage fall off and range of a Hand Cannon, which I highly disagree with. Pulse is the baby of a scout and auto. But this is well said Taxemic.

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