[quote]All three of those countries have private industry, and therefore aren't socialist. They're social democracies.[/quote] Venezuela is a practical example of a social democracy? And you call yourself a democratic socialist? I want no part of your system.

Unfortunately many of us want no part of you being here but you still are

And I want no part of the free-market system.

[quote]And I want no part of the free-market system.[/quote] Not a fan of voluntary exchanges? That's fine. I have zero problem with that position. I only have a problem when you try to force me into your system.

I have a problem with the economic theory that coincides with a free market system, which has been proven to not work (trickle-down).

Supply-side economics are not representative of a free market because supply-side is just a reversed progressive tax bracket. A free market is just a market where exchanges are voluntary. You're the one trying to introduce force into the equation. The fascist is the one who brings the gun to the party.

[quote]Supply-side economics are not representative of a free market because supply-side is just a reversed progressive tax bracket.[/quote]The idea is if you give tax cuts to high earners, the wealth will "trickle down" to the workers and the poor. This goes against human nature. And I'm no fascist. God you're ignorant.

[quote]The idea is if you give tax cuts to high earners, the wealth will "trickle down" to the workers and the poor. This goes against human nature.[/quote] That's horrendous reasoning, and it shows a misunderstanding of wealth. Wealth is not static, and wealth is not useless in large amounts. [quote]And I'm no fascist. God you're ignorant.[/quote] Define fascism.

Actually its perfect reasoning. Greed is an evolutionary trait. Its human nature to be selfish. You define fascism. I already know what it is, but do you? People like you love to use terms like that as a buzzword to discredit anyone you disagree with.

LOL meanwhile all the left has done is discredit trump as "fascist, racist, homophobic, literally hitler."

[quote]Greed is an evolutionary trait. Its human nature to be selfish.[/quote] Really? I view greed as Humanity's fatal flaw. In the end, it is just another negative emotion we must constantly keep in check. We must evolve past greed if we are to survive as a species.

Richard Dawkins discovered the selfish gene in the 70s

And now that we have gene editing tech, we can erase it once and for all and evolve into a more virtuous and accepting species.

[quote]Actually its perfect reasoning. Greed is an evolutionary trait. Its human nature to be selfish.[/quote] "Selfish" isn't really the right word. "Self-interested" is the correct phrase. People give to charity. The lend their time to help others. They go out of their way to make life easier for other people. The difference is that they do these things voluntarily because it's what they want to do. Some people act selflessly, but they're still acting in a self-interested way. That's human nature, and it's why collectivism fails (gulags and mass starvation aside). Your policy proposals are selfish. You want to use force to take earned wealth from some people and give it to people who haven't earned it. [quote]You define fascism. I already know what it is, but do you? People like you love to use terms like that as a buzzword to discredit anyone you disagree with.[/quote] I like to let self-described fascists describe it for me. Take a look at the image in my previous point. Similarly, we can look at Mussolini's definition - "Everything within the State. Nothing outside the State."

Charaties are unreliable. They take most of the wealth, and most of it never gets to the poor. Why do you think Nordic countries have such low poverty rates? Why is poverty not eradicated in thr U.S. with all the charaties that exist? Do everyone a favor and look it up from a neutral source, and I'll judge it.

[quote]Charaties are unreliable. They take most of the wealth, and most of it never gets to the poor.[/quote] Evidence? Oh, none? Just an unsubstantiated claim? Fine, then. [quote]Why do you think Nordic countries have such low poverty rates?[/quote] Why do you think they have such low poverty rates? I'd chalk it up to the prosperity brought on by high degrees of economic freedom. Why do you think Venezuela is suffering? What's killing Greece? Why is Cuba a hellhole? Why are American blacks declining?

Cuba is actually doing quite well. Not great but well enough. They have economic freedom combines with a welfare state to ensure the people are taken care of.

[quote]Cuba is actually doing quite well. Not great but well enough. They have economic freedom combines with a welfare state to ensure the people are taken care of.[/quote] Cuba ranks 177th on the Index. For reference, Venezuela ranks 176th. There is no economic freedom in Cuba, at least not any beyond a negligible degree or a black market. (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/cuba/economy.htm) Cuba has walked the tightrope between "barely-livable" and "third-world joke" for decades, now. Let's keep in mind that this nation follows your beloved "nationalize all the necessary industries" script perfectly. Education? Free. Housing? Free. Healthcare? Free. Utilities? Free. The problem is that this is unsustainable, and the government knows it. They operate a dual-economy. The socialized state is concerned with citizens, and it represses their property rights to the best of its ability. In order to turn a national profit, they liberalized the markets that were popular with tourists. This tourist income is largely what funds the socialized markets, since these nationalized industries aren't profitable or sustainable ([i]cough, cough[/i], just like Greece). Like most nations with bloated welfare states, Cuba has found that it can't keep the charade on forever, even if it frees up the tourist markets. That's why in 2013 the Cuban government started taking steps to freeing [i]all[/i] the markets, allowing private enterprises to keep some of their profits in order to recapitalize and expand on their own. They lifted restrictions on wages. These changes are good, but they're still intent on keeping these industries nationalized. In essence, they're starting to follow China's model, which is [i]not[/i] a model known for using the nicer elements of economic freedom (letting the market set wages and standards, for example). A more basic point is to look at Cuban emigration. People don't fashion boats out of bedroom doors in order to escape a prosperous and free nation. You neglected to address the other examples. Why is Greece failing? Why is Venezuela failing? Why are American blacks declining as a demographic?

They have corrupt governments. Simple.