I grew up in gaming by playing science-fiction fantasy an RPG games. The first game I ever beat was Metroid II, in the game that got me totally hooked was final fantasy seven. Since then, it's been elder scrolls, fallout, and mass effect. The error that I found PVP enjoyable was the days of doing lan parties or split screen with your friends. In general, I find that online PVP is incredibly toxic, stressful, and not a very good way to relax. I have always disagreed with bungie's philosophy on making PVP end game experiences because I feel like it interferes with the games potential for deep and complicated character builds and takes resources away from making the game world larger and the story more immersive. I originally signed onto Destiny hoping for a rich and complicated world. While we get that from the group more cards, I feel like much of the potential that is not met is because there is such a large PVP presence. All that being said, I still think that destiny is a great game, and I'm not gonna change the fact that PVP is such a large part of what bungie creates. I respect their honesty about their design philosophy, even if I don't like it.