I hate it when overbearing players try to tell me how I'm supposed to feel about the game. The game is mishandled? A lot of developers make mistakes with their games. Bungie is at least learning from it. I've seen them make great strides since I started playing in 9/15. If you want to see a mishandled game, see No Man's Sky.

And your gonna lie about them learning? They keep ignoring the community, they keep runining balance, the game has gone backwards since launch. Innever said you have to feel like you hate it, but at least be real

Are you kidding? They learned a lot from the failure of Year 1. The reviews were below average. They really turned things around with the Taken King and then further with the April Update. How are they ignoring the community? Are you talking about "buff this, nerf that"? You will never be able to please everyone when it comes to loot.

The april update was a waist of time, the poe is poorly done, and didint need an update. The arhcons forge should have been the model for arenas since the beginning Ttk did way more harm to the game than good, at least in year 1, crucible was fun, every raid was viable, and the loot was great Ttk felt meaningless, terrible loot, boring raid thats too reliant on mechanics, and a linear story with almost no actual telling Even here with risen of iron, the raid has no link to the story, the story was too short, told poorly, ans the crucible is still in a terrible state

Ah, you are one of those guys that actually liked Year 1. That explains it. LOL. Yeah, the players who loved playing 20-30 Strikes just to get one exotic item. Talk about fun. -- eyes rolling --

I mainly a crucible player, the endgame activities of year 1 were actually fun, and actually rewarding So your one of those people who liked the inflated content of year 2, the mediocre weaponry, the terrible endgame loot, and the god awful community management?

You both have valid points, and it is true that you are never going to be able to satisfy 100% of the fan base. Year 1 was the baseline and they done well with it, to a point! They tried to improve it with TTK and the raid and story actually went hand in hand. However, after reaching the max light level on TTK, I got bored, there was no targets to try and reach, so what was the point when all 3 Guardians are at max light? It will be the same with this expansion, as soon as I hit 400, what will be the point in playing and re-hashing the game over and over again? There is no story really in Rise Of Iron and it is true that Aksis doesn't really link to the story mode. However the raid, even though simplistic when you have it down, is difficult but once you have it down with a good fire team, it really is simplistic and has nothing on Oryx! Drop rates generally are poor. Game modes don't offer any come back when you have reached max light, the story is poor and still so many questions left to be answered (Is the queen actually dead? Will we meet the Stranger again? Will the Speaker ever tell us of the past wars? Who is the Speaker? Just a few questions that are story related). Will the Queen's missions and story be revived or will this come in Destiny 2. And re-hashing enemies where they have been modified? Really? That is just lazy when there are so many other parts that need to be tied up. There is a lot more to go through regarding what could be done better like when you max out a piece of armour or weaponry, the light level of that piece of equipment should go up 1 light level. SRL should be more of a common event. Drop rates on Skeleton Keys need to increase. Allow a fire team of 6 into patrol. But for all that we determine to be wrong with the game, look at what is right. The look and the feel of the game is amazing and it has a better balance than most games out there in PVE! There is a good community. Slate this game, but we all still come back to it so what does that really say about the game? If it was that bad we wouldn't continue to play it. There is nothing wrong in expressing jubilation or disappointment, just respect others views and opinions.