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9/30/2016 6:32:00 PM
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The President of Sony is trying throw Hello Game under the bush to distract the public from how BADLY they -blam!-ed up the pricing and marketing of this game.
Sean Murray was the developer.
Hello Games was the developer.
Sony was the PUBLISHER. The marketing and pricing of this game was SONY"s responsibility. Not Sean Murray's. Not Hello Games.
So anything that got -blam!-ed up was THEIR fault....and trying put the blame off on the developer at this point is a really shitty thing to do.
TLDR: Marketng and pricing of this game was Sony's job...and they set Hello Games up to fail. Instead of charging the typical price of an indie game. Sony saw the chance to leverage the attention this game was getting (rightfully) for its innovative use of procedural Generation to charge a AAA price for the game.
But with that price came AAA game expectations from the fans....which Hello Game's 15 man studio was never going to be able to live up to. People expected a AAA game.....the got an niche Indie game....and now they're mad as hell...and the truth doesn't matter anymore.
But instead of Sony being honorable about this. They simply threw the dev under the bush, and joined the hate chorus. AS IF THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW THIS GAME WAS MARKETED.
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Your TL;DR is longer than the post.
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To be fair, some of developers made public claims that there would be a multiplayer component in the game.
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Do you mean they threw them under the bus?
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Apple's auto-correct.
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Sony was the Distributor...
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When the TLDR is longer than the actual post. But seriously, you are right. Murrey has said multiple times that Sony handled 100% of the marketing.
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This guy gets a medal, longest TLDR ever
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Sony didn't make Hello Game's lie.
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Your TLDR- Is too long, so didn't read. Ill just assume you were wrong
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The term is thrown under the bus. Just for future reference.
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[quote]The term is thrown under the bus. Just for future reference.[/quote] Yep
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Sony didnt tell sean murray to lie about stuff, sony allowed them a larger budget and more ad space, sony probably had nothing to do with advertising besides that
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LOL no! Sony knew all of its problems and because of that they are culpable since they allowed it to be released.
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You are REALLY looking for reasons to hate Sony. A publisher can't just say "This game is not that great. I'm just going to stop you from releasing it." That would just make them look WORSE. It's not Sony's fault Sean Murray is a liar. It's possible that Sony made the game $60, and yes, Sony did make the trailers I think, but the blame should mostly go to Hello Games.
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Sony's exact words. "We are treating no man's sky as if it were a first party aaa exclusive game". Sony deserves just as much criticism in regards to the no man's sky controversy as the devs do
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It was Sony's responsibility to know everything about how the game was being marketed. IF Murray had made claims that the final game couldn't live up to (he didn't in fact), it was Sony's responsibility to be aware of this and correct the record. So to try to wash their hands of the situation and pretend that they had nothing to do with any of this...as if Murray had somehow "gone rogue" is bullshit. Especially since rumor has it that Sony reps were present at the interviews...and stopped Murray from answering a question about NMS coming to Xbox. So the were quite capable of stepping if it looked like something might step on their exclusivity deal....
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That is NOT their responsibility at all. I get that you're trying to defend you're favorite company Hello Games, but them lying about their OWN GAME is their problem. You're telling me that everything is Sony's fault because Hello Games straight up lied about their own game and Sony didn't do anything about it? When the whole thing could've just as easily been avoided if HG didn't lie in the first place?? Sony did not lie, Hello Games did. Sony's only crime is being too lenient with HG and Sean Murray.
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Edited by kellygreen45: 10/3/2016 8:11:28 AMSony assumed that responsibilty when they entered into the deal with Hello Games. Hello Games isn't handing Sony money for nothing. Who do you think decided to charge $60 for the game?? If I make a deal with you to paint your house, I'm responsible for how the job gets done. Even if I don't do the job personally. It is my responsibility to see it gets done properly and to correct any mistakes or problems. Sean Murray is a nerdy guy who likes to make games. He's not a marketing person or a guy with a professional PR background. What you want to call lies are simply ambiguous answers to questions that poorly informed customer took to mean what they WANTED them to mean, and now want someone else to blame. COMPETENT marketing support would have either cautioned him to not give specifics about things still in development (DeeJs favorite move) or stepped in to give clearer responses. Sony did neither. Hello Games is a small indie company that had NO experience with anything on this scale, at best Sony was asleep at the switch, and now trying to weasel out of responsibility for the colossal shit show the marketing of this game became. Which is as cowardly as it comes.
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Shuhei Yoshida told Eurogamer that it sounded like developers were "promising more features in the game from day one". You are the publisher. You handled the advertising and marketing. If they promised it then you should have checked ( which no one believes for a -blam!-ing secondly that after 3 years of promoting it, Sony knew exactly what was being released and pushed it out anyway) My personal feelings for Sony don't change the fact that they knew. If they didn't then their ignorance makes them just as guilty
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If you are responsible for some function, then you are responsible for what EVERYONE does in the service of that function whether you did it yourself or not. The marketing of the game was Sony's responsibility. Which means they were either AWARE of everything that was said, or SHOULD have been aware. So to throw Hello games and Sean Murray to the wolves at THIS late date over an aspect of the game's production that was YOUR responsibility, as if you had NOTHING to do with it..... ...is the act of a coward.
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This post is right on the nose
