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9/26/2016 3:04:47 PM
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Sniper nerf, and its effect on the 'meta'
This is just awful. I agreethat snipers needed toned back, but this is insanity. I was here for the days of thorn+matador/felwinters sniper lie. That was more fun than this. This is just, awful. Shotgun rishing is wven more prominent now. And theres barely two weapon types that can counter this bullshit. Its sad. It needs to be stopped too. Since everyone loves that -blam!-ing warlock stormcaller melee, and titan skating. Tone back the -blam!-ing melee and nerf titan skateing[spoiler] it probably still wont help[/spoiler] abilities
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2 RepliesI can attest that in PvE I now have to 2 headshot vandals (heroic strikes/red bar) to bring them down
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I got sniped like hell in Elimination yesterday :(
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Sniping isn't as easy , but shot gunning is a bit out of hand . I think shotguns need the range bumped down a bit and only be viable at super close ranges as to be inline with how they should really be . Snipers are ok where they're at , but I'd ask for special across the board be limited to one magazine with exception to side arms , after that I'd say that's as close to balance as we'll get.
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5 RepliesLol wow. Git gud and git muted. Titan skating had already been nerfed and the warlock melee is just fine. The range is literally the only thing that is good about it.
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Snipers want to be able to stay at range, do massive bodyshot damage, OHK headshot damage, be able to shut down supers, want it to be a suitable CQC weapon, want abundant special ammo and want little to no flinch while getting hit Even after calling for and receiving shotgun nerfs galore
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1 ReplyYour memory eludes you. Blink shotgun with shot package was much worse. People have just leveled up on their movement and game knowledge now that it's year 3 and are harder to kill. I think shotguns are dumb too and don't need perks like rangefinder. But it is what it is. Don't be stubborn to the meta. Learn it, use it to your advantage weather that's you using the weapons yourself or the tactics that make it harder to use you.
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6 RepliesWhat's a 'meta'
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Stop trying to change the game to fit your particular play style and learn how to adapt. And if you're talking about Supremacy you should absolutely expect CQC with shotguns everywhere. The only "meta" in this game is the one you create by sucking against certain weapons and abilities.
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1 ReplyShotties are so weak. I even can shot them down with a slow firing auto when they come at me.
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17 RepliesI don't get why snipers get a nerf when shotguns require so little skill to use (gunplay wise there is skill in positioning and mobility). Like you just run up pull the trigger and get a kill no matter where you aim if you're close range. That's pretty much like if I'm in sniper range and I just zoom in and auto lock to your head and pull the trigger to get an insta kill. But God forbid a good sniper is able to kill you while being shot.
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No snipers needed to be nerfed, FAST paced crucible is better
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Snipers deserved everything they got. They were dominant for far to long. Now everyone's complaining. I myself snipe and I thing this was a good change. Only the players are a decent with a sniper still uses them.
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4 RepliesEdited by eire_hatch: 9/27/2016 12:34:00 PMGeezus... This is like Y1 all over again... This is an age-old debate since you could push Atheon off the map with sunsinger grenades... You all may as well pick up a shotgun and get with the program because making threads in the forums only provide you temporary relief while you're at work. Everyone debating more shotgun nerfs probably can't remember Y1 and if they could, they'd remember that shot package got taken away from us because of threads just like this. Sniping hadn't been touched at all until damn near Y3, and let's not forget the Fusions' "shadow of their former selves" Rifles. TL;DR - Leave the weapons alone and stop hindering yourselves guys. Crucible is the way it is because we all chose worse evils over the not-so-bad evils we already had.
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Grasp. Any good Sidearm. TLW. REGIME. Supercell. Any bullet hose AR. PLAN C. Any decent FR. Any sticky grenade. Smoke. Jump. Blink. Walk backwards... ...while firing. Shadestep. Garrison. Stormcaller melee. Third Eye. Your own shotgun. ... ...insert practiced weapon with map awareness... Did I mention Jump?
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It is literally one or the other and the reason for that is the heard mentality of players who take streamers and tubers words and gospel if they say snipers are crap everyone goes shotties and visa versa. Players are as much at fault for these stupid metas as bungie. the hell you are in is the result of player weakness/ignorance.
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Shotguns haven't been bothering me too much. Strange that I stopped using them almost entirely since the sniper nerf after using them for everything the past 2 years.
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So what youre saying is that youre bad?
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3 RepliesWhat exactly is the issue with snipers? I haven't played in months up till this weekend and didn't notice any difference in my ability to use one effectively.
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3 RepliesDamn this community for [i]still[/i] asking for nerfs!
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14 RepliesEdited by ChiknStrips: 9/26/2016 10:01:53 PMHoW was the most balanced period of crucible. Thorn took more skill than now, as it required precision Shotgunning had a higher skill gap, as high reaction speed was encouraged (shotguns ready so slow now that the skill gap is smaller) Shotgunning and sniping took more skill as primaries were strong enough to compete Don't nerf anything. Buff everything. Especially primaries
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4 RepliesSniping is in a good spot. Got a phantom the other day with a longbow. The flinch you take us more but that is how it should be. Shotguns work as they should. Sidearms and fusions wreck shotgunners
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Snipers are in the place they needed to be right now. They have flinch when shot. Not noticing any other nerfs. Still instashot ppl in the face and 2 shots in the body.
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Whatever kills me makes me respawn
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1 ReplyShotguns need a nerf so the only way you can kill with them is to remove a guardians helmet and shove it down their throat. That way I can complain about fusion rifles.
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Dude...there's so many ways to counter shotguns. I'm getting serious deja vu right now.
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Snipers still gonna run trials.
