id love to raid but the demands to even get a chance to play by others are too absurd and i dont really have anyone that would help me either, so id rather grind myself close to the cap before even trying to look for groups

You make out like EVERYONE is an elitist round here! If you made your own post looking for players of a similar LL to you that want to do the Raid, you'd find a fireteam easy! It's not hard GANTZ, I feel like most of the time your constant crying about being left out of things is your own god damn fault (No offence)

its common knowledge people demand high levels and specific items or you get kicked , i didnt make those rules , i know its my fault because i cant invest as much time in the game as i could in year1 to keep up with people and maintain contacts, but there are certain things in life more important also the game isnt very helpful in allowing to play it by not having matchmaking features actually im struggling to find parties even for nightfalls since they changed the recruitemnt forum so im trying to find workarounds , the old forum was painful but i could at least utilize it , the mess they replaced it with doesnt work for me at all

Never been refused or kicked from a Raid team I've found on LFG or recruitment. Sure I've found some awful teams but some great gamers too. Yeah we would all prefer to be playing with IRL friends but since the 3 or 4 I joined destiny with originally have left that's not gonna happen.

Seriously, just make a post in Recruitment. ''Doing Wrath of Machine, just having some fun and see where we get....'' This game has more 'casuals' playing it than your so called 'Elitists' Using matchmaking REALLY isn't that much effort, it's time you got over that part of your complaints!