A lot of people seem to have the wrong ideas about the Vex Mythoclast these days. Maybe it's just Year 2 players, maybe it's people with PTSD from how good it used to be..But they seem to think it's either going to be overpowered or underpowered, and prefer it to be the latter. I kid you not, there were points where the gun was competitive but not dominant in PvP. Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we? [b]IT'LL BE A LONG ONE.[/b]
[quote]Vex Mythoclast
Base Damage decreased by 34%
Increased Precision Damage multiplier from 1.25 -> 1.50 (headshot bonus)[/quote]
[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2j9thj/bungie_lied_about_how_much_the_mythoclast_was/]Immediately players realized Bungie had overnerfed the Vex Mythoclast, whether it was intentional or unintentional who knows. The damage nerf ended up being around 50% which crippled the weapon.[/url]
[quote]Vex Mythoclast
Attack Power increased to 323 (from 300)
Base Damage increased, fixing bug we introduced in previous patch
Enhanced Battery upgrade by Extended Mag (this change still allows for a significant upgrade to Magazine Size, but less than before)[/quote]
[b]THIS was the most balanced version of the Vex we ever had. It was consistent, and regained a respectable time to kill alongside a modest magazine size.[/b]
[quote]Fusion Rifles
Widened blast pattern on a Fusion Rifle burst cone
Reduced starting ammunition in PVP[/quote]
[b]Consistency issues start to plague the Vex Mythoclast at those medium ranges. It was still a good weapon, just not as crispy as it was before.[/b]
[quote]Weapons
Fixed an issue in which Vex Mythoclast was not respawning with primary ammunition[/quote]
[b]AKA: You can use the Vex Mythoclast again and not feel like a jackass.[/b]
[quote]Fusion Rifles
Fusion Rifles now no longer get more accurate with each projectile fired
Fusion Rifles that are slow charging, high impact now have a slightly lower base Range value, making it harder to max out range for these weapons
Accuracy increased for low range Fusion Rifles; Accuracy reduced for high range Fusion Rifles
Max Fusion Rifle projectile speed decreased slightly
Damage done against AI combatants increased by 15%
Vex Mythoclast
Projectile Speed increased to compensate for global Fusion Rifle changes
Stability increased to compensate for global Fusion Rifle changes
Year One Perks
Aggressive Ballistics: Reduced damage bonus by 50%. Increased stability and range penalties by 100%
Extended Mag: Reduced magazine bonus by 33%
Linear Compensator: Reduced damage bonus by 50%
Send It: Reduced by range bonus 40%. Inventory and equip penalties added
Smart Drift Control: Reduced stability bonus by 40%. Reduced range penalty by 33%[/quote]
[b]Times start getting rough for Mythoclast users. The first change that effected accuracy for each projectile fired really hurt the Vex, since it fired one bolt at a time. The Vex Mythoclast was technically a high-range Fusion Rifle, so it got two accuracy nerfs in one. The projectile speed nerf wasn't quite offset by the buff, and the blanket stability buff was..Pretty underwhelming since it lost [i]ACCURACY[/i]. Hell, the stability buff was better suited for offsetting the nerfs to Aggressive Ballistics and Smart Drift Control..Anyway; Extended Mag becomes mediocre at this point giving you a whopping seven extra shots.[/b]
[quote]Fusion Rifles
Increased Charge Speed on fast charging Fusion Rifles. Reduce burst damage to compensate
Fusion rifles behave more predictably based on player state
Reduced Hip Fire Stability for all fusions
Increased ADS and Crouched Stability for all fusions
Reduction in carried inventory for all fusion rifles
10% increase to PvE damage bonus to offset[/quote]
[b]Oh boy, a blanket nerf to Fusion Rifles with no compensation buff for the Vex Mythoclast. How can I describe this one..Well, this version pretty much forced you into Smart Drift Control just to have any form of controllable recoil, and even then it wasn't consistent enough for use outside of close range. Also, that reserve ammo nerf made using it frustrating as you ran out of ammo rather often..Especially with Send It.[/b]
[quote]Fusion Rifles
Increased Stability base stat (40% recoil reduction); this means that lower stability Fusion Rifles will get affected more than higher stability rifles
Fixed bug where some outlying fusion rifle scopes had unintended increased zoom that was removed in Year Two.
Vex Mythoclast
Reduced Damage base stat to compensate for improved Stability (by -13%)[/quote]
[b]Hooray, the Vex Mythoclast is going to be less mediocre with the stability buff! Especially for those who prefer to use Linear Compe-..Wait, a damage nerf? Why Bungie? You seemed OK with the Vex Mythoclast's damage before, but now this teensy stability buff to try to offset the previous nerf warrants a damage nerf? Well then, the damage values are about as good as when you guys "accidentally" overnerfed it back in October..And now it has all of these other issues from blanket nerfs..Yeah, the worst iteration of it yet for sure. We now have an auto rifle that has built-in inaccuracy like HandCannons, projectile travel time, and a time to kill that's best compared to the Doctrine of Passing..Which doesn't have any of the issues the Vex has. There's no point in using it anymore other than for kicks and giggles, or for trying to give yourself a challenge in the Crucible.[/b]
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rip in peace vex
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This is more relevant now than ever before... bungie please give this gun some love.
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Bump.
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Youre right
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Best answer ever. Detailed description with proof. RIP the Vex. I still use it sometimes in vanilla crucible whenever I'm feeling nostalgic. But my ratio drops aggressively.
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This makes me remember using the vex, it seems like so long ago that it was a relevant weapon. I loved it, not just for pvp but for the Crota raid too. I always used the vex for the lamps section. It seemed like it tore through the hive, it seemed like that's what it was made for and why atheon would drop it. But then they totally killed it. It's really too bad. I would love for bungie to bring it back!
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They messed the gun up so much
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Bump Poor vex
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Thx you for posting this, I seriously hope Bungie reads the top posts on forums. What you said couldnt be more clear. This is exactly what the Vex has been through, its really sad.