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8/29/2016 9:44:22 PM
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For everyone saying how OP Vex was and it shouldn't be fixed... No one is saying, bring back God status for the dang thing. Bring it back up to the specs it was at right after the FIRST nerf. No one even really gets what OP means anymore... everyone sees 'buff' and automatically think 'OP'. It's sad... I'm mean, c'mon, you can't nerf a gun 5 times and expect it to still be usable. Same thing with the Thorn. No one really cares how the gun handles or how they rework it or what the stats really are or even the fact there's a literal artifact coming around to negate DoT. Yet, somehow, everyone is sooooo scared and nervous and blah blah blah. And I'm certain if they brought back Low RoF Pulse Rifles back to the potential to two burst kill, perfect precision hits status, some people would be yelling OP left and right. If that's so bad, then why do people not complain about the fact that any decent impact hand cannon with lucky round can kill with two precision shots? For geez sake, now Shoulder charge is being attacked by nerf posts and so are lightning grenades. They have been absolutely fine for two years and now everyone notices them. And if no one noticed the Encore perk for the Arcblade works nothing like it used to. So little super regen... it's only good for the damage now. "Annoyances" do not justify a nerf. If they did then we wouldn't even have the Taken. They're the definition of annoying.
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  • This argument is the same one hunters made for throwing knives and trip mines and warlocks made for Viking funeral. No matter what the bitch ass portion of this community will find something they don't like on a class they don't play and scream nerf. I just play what I want and wait for the next nerf to move me to another class.

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  • Edited by Nixie: 8/30/2016 10:22:31 PM
    I still think lightning grenades should have a tighter cone or have a lightning effect the shows where the grenade boundaries are.

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  • Showing the boundaries would be good. I don't think it needs a tighter cone. It's just not knowing where it's pointing the second it lands.

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  • Edited by Nixie: 8/30/2016 10:25:34 PM
    I hate how the Lightning animation is far away from me, but I still get hit because there aren't visible cues of its cone size.

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  • It's really hard to guess the real range of it. Maybe if they had a straight lightning bolt that was always pointing how far the range was, once it's placedbut it's just for show, no damage or anything

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  • I still wonder how lightning grenades work. What the hell is the electricity jumping to in the middle of the air. Real lightning travels between atoms with lower resistance. Whatever, I guess that's not important. At least in RoI I can test the range in private matches! Yay!

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  • Aimless lightning does that. We use lightning with a purpose. And... can compress it into small grenades... Plus, it's technically Arc light. Not lightning, although, it's the same thing. So the game does what it wants. Lol

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  • I want a separate playlist with vanilla weapon balances

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  • That would be hectic and awesome!

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  • Indeed! I am so sick of the taken cabal phalanxes shields hitting through walls! "You want to run to cover? TOO BAD BITCH! IMA BLAST YO ASS ANYWAY!"

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  • I hate Taken Fallen more... At least I can KILL Taken phalanxes. Not that stupid bubble and can't see worth a damn crap.

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  • Its to be expected when bungie nerf more than buff. All the things that were balanced in year one seem way op in year 2/3. I remember when no one complained of mida in year one , it never got buffed in year 2 and all of a sudden its op because everything gets nerfed to -blam!-

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  • Vex was nerfed 7 times in the first eight months that the game was out. Js

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  • Anyone who responds negative to this probably snipes. My op never flinch sniper that works like a shotgun and beats every close to mid to ranged primary in the game. Is fine. Oh and they probably body shot people. No headshots for these clowns.

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  • The only reason encore went un noticed is because nobody used it so Bungie buffed it to get players to use it more that extra damage perk was never there to begin with

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  • I know... but I loved Encore against the Hive... I love the extra damage. But why even say it charges the super? It really doesn't. It used to be per kill (say, you got 5 kills with a Razor's Edge attack, it would go up 5 bits of super), now it's just, per use for a fixed amount of super (which is so small, no matter the kills) instead of stacking like it normally would.

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  • This is the attitude to nerfs and buffs everyone needs.

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  • It was complete garbage after the first nerf. Remember they first nerfed it and it became a dust collector for a month or two, then they re-buffed it. That's what they should restore it to

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  • True. I keep forgetting they buffed it again sometime long ago. I still loved it during Dark Below. I think it was alright even then. Just not as good as it should've been.

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  • Id have to disagree, it's dark below state was very solid, mag size was good altho ammo was still kind of a pain in the ass for pve but damage wise it was very fair, I used that thing sooooo much in crucible and pve back then and I'll miss that gun, still have my 3 each class held. But currently if you use it kind of like a sub in crucible it melts

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  • I though it was the best gun in the game until half way through HoW when they completely ruined fusions. The Vex was my baby. I don't remember this auto rifle era everyone talks about, all I remember was dominating with the Vex.

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  • Edited by TotalDramaGamer: 8/29/2016 11:53:15 PM
    It wasn't really an era... it was more just Suros and Bungie messing with the damage stat because they don't know the difference between RANGE and DAMAGE. That, and to be honest, no one wanted to use the other guns. Hand Cannons seemed too risky, Scouts were too slow and pulses were also just not viewed as useful. No one wanted to try something new.

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  • Competely agree

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  • [quote]Competely agree[/quote]

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  • [quote][quote]Competely agree[/quote][/quote]

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