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8/22/2016 3:26:13 PM
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If you think gun control will work, you're a sheep.
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  • 😂😂😂😂😂

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  • If you think it won't help at all, you're just as blind.

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  • Nope. Gun control doesn't work. We don't need American politicians in 2016 telling us what is best for the individual. Leave that authoritarianism bullshit to Europe.

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  • Yep. As blind as I thought. Maybe more so.

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  • Edited by Mr Jim Lahey: 8/22/2016 4:09:25 PM
    Let me guess you're one of those "I know what's best for you" kind of guy? Not surprising. Shows how much faith you got in people.

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  • Faith lost from the mass shootings every other week. And "I know what's best" because I've seen it. Canada's gun laws are far stricter, and we have less gun related violence. I actually feel [i]safe[/i] when I walk around uptown.

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  • No, mass shootings are every weekend. Look at some of the biggest cities in America. Chicago for example. Guns are completely illegal there, and there's mass shootings ALL the time. The law or regulations doesn't stop bad people from doing bad things. It never will. History has taught us this

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  • Guns aren't allowed in D.C and there's few gun related crimes there but mostly because every other person is military or law enforcement

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  • History has also taught us that making something illegal in one place, but having it legal a short distance away, doesn't do crap.

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  • Hitler banned guns before he made Germany a totalitarian government

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  • So? Many countries have banned guns and haven't become totalitarian.

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  • But it's a common move by tyrants to disarm their populace because without guns they can't fight back against your rule. It is the duty of the American people to use weapons to overthrow a tyrannical central government that wants to disarm you of not only your weapons but your basic rights one by one

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  • Your assertion that Hitler (and other tyrants) banned guns is historically false. Timeline: -In 1919, Germany issued all citizens to hand in privately owned firearms, this was done to avoid violating the terms of the Treaty of Versailles, Hitler did not come to power until 1933. -in 1928, the Weimar Republic introduced a gun registration system that allowed citizens to obtain firearms under a strict listening system. -In 1938, [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] Germany contrary to the popular notion, actually [b]loosened[/b] significantly, shotguns and rifles were completely deregulated, legal age to own dropped from 21 to 18, and members of the Third Reich had unlimited access to firearms. Now, they did however, ban and confiscate guns from Jews (and other "unreliables"), due to their anti-Semitic platform. But here's the thing, not only is it inaccurate and a bit insensitive to suggest the Jews couldn't fight back because they had guns confiscated, because they actually did fight back, there were over 100 Jewish uprisings during WWII in every axis controlled territory. The most notable of this is the Warsaw Ghetto uprising where 13,000 Jews all revolted, all armed, and almost the entire force was essentially annihilated. Those who also make this argument also overlook how authoritarian regimes come to power to begin with, post-WWI for Germany was a time of massive socioeconomic struggle. The idea that a small force of Jews would've been able to succeed where the Polish, French and Belgian armies failed, is frankly laughable. Attacks by Jews also would've added fuel to their propaganda machine and hasten their destruction.

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  • It's also pretty much impossible for an American to become a tyrant, thanks to the Supreme court, and the limited time with which they hold power.

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  • What did I just read? Have you been paying attention to Americas last two president? I cannot take you serious anymore. Get muted

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  • Lmao. Another wimp who mutes anyone with different views than his own. Do you even know what a tyrant is? [quote]1. a cruel and oppressive ruler. 2. a person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way. 3. (especially in ancient Greece) a ruler who seized power without legal right.[/quote] In what way were either of the last two Presidents cruel? Or are you saying that they got in to office without being voted in? Almost all major decisions must be made by the Supreme Court. This includes any and every change to the major rights and freedoms that you enjoy. There are some things that the President can do without their approval, but not many.

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  • Hitler was supposed to be limited to time in power, but he wasn't. You're right on the Supreme Court though, they didn't have that

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  • Soooo you do agree people will ignore the law. Glad we can agree!

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  • I agree that people will disobey the law of course. That's evident everywhere. But when you reduce their ability to do so, it also reduces the number of people who will.

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  • They will just continue to buy guns off the black market or use different weapons. Like the bomb used in Boston marathon or the car used in France.

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  • Obviously. But [i]less[/i], let me stress that, [b][i][u]less[/u][/i][/b], significantly less people will have access. Part of what "empowers" some of them to commit crimes is how easily they can get weapons that make them have an upper hand. If you reduce that ability, make it possible possible for them to be arrested simply for purchasing weapons that aren't for hunting, you greatly reduce gun violence itself.

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  • You think criminals go to wal mart to buy guns? They don't. Most criminals buy guns off the black market which no government can regulate. Maybe trump will build a wall separating America from Canada, to keep you Canadians safe from us free lovin crazy Americans.

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  • I really hope he does.

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  • I do too, and I hope all the cry babies and bums move out. Dangerous freedom > peaceful slavery

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  • Dangerous freedom leads to anarchy.

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