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8/22/2016 2:52:58 PM
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Stricter gun laws mean that it is [i]more difficult[/i] for criminals to get weapons. Nobody is saying that it would stop them. I say this a lot when it comes to guns, and I'll say it again: Just look at Canada. We have tonnes of people who own at least one gun, yet I'm not worried about anyone pulling out a gun when I'm walking around town. That's because our guns are for hunting, and must be kept in a locked case/locker when not hunting. Are there gun related crimes in Canada? Absolutely. But far less than the US.
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  • Edited by RedAlertSteve: 8/24/2016 4:36:12 PM
    People live in Canada?

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  • 34 million people.

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  • That's a small amount

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  • Considering the amount of land we have? Yeah. Our overall population density isn't very high. But consider that 90% or more of us live right along the US border.

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  • How ironic

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  • In what way?

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  • All the ways

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  • Do you know what irony is?

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  • Everything I say is false

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  • That's not ironic, it's a paradox.

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  • And I lead you into it

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  • [i] [/i]

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  • Well... you're not wrong.

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  • Oooo I forgot the question mark. Let me fix that

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  • *tons

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  • I know. I just like to misuse "tonnes" because the metric system.

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  • Merica says [b]NO[/b]

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  • To all the pro-gun Americans that are law abiding citizens being "stripped of their right to bear arms", stricter gun laws won't affect you unless you're a criminal. If you aren't a convict, you go get a government issued gun licence and purchase it. Seriously get a grip people.

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  • [quote]To all the pro-gun Americans that are law abiding citizens being "stripped of their right to bear arms", stricter gun laws won't affect you unless you're a criminal. If you aren't a convict, you go get a government issued gun licence and purchase it. Seriously get a grip people.[/quote]

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  • Edited by Steve of Steves: 8/23/2016 12:09:45 AM
    [quote]Stricter gun laws mean that it is [i]more difficult[/i] for criminals to get weapons. Nobody is saying that it would stop them.[/quote] Stricter gun laws affect the law-abiding citizens who purchase guns legally through gun stores. They do nothing to make it more difficult for criminals to obtain guns. If I were to purchase a gun legally, I would be required to go through a 10 day waiting period. If I were to purchase a gun illegally, I would have to drive 30 minutes to Oakland and I can take the gun home with me tonight.

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  • 10 days? Damn. I can go buy a handgun and walk out of the store with it in a couple hours. Gotta love WY.

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  • Edited by ThaddeusHamlet: 8/23/2016 12:16:36 AM
    Yeah sure, but that still diminishes the number of people who have guns. [i]Everybody[/i] knows that they can still be obtained illegally. That has been not only stated, but proven time and time again. The idea here is to [i]diminish[/i] the number of people with guns, which would decrease gun related crimes. You can't argue against a system that very plainly works.

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  • [quote]Yeah sure, but that still diminishes the number of people who have guns.[/quote] You mean "law abiding citizens"? [quote][i]Everybody[/i] knows that they can still be obtained legally. That has been not only stated, but proven time and time again.[/quote] You mean [i]illegally[/i]? [quote]The idea here is to [i]diminish[/i] the number of people with guns, which would decrease gun related crimes.[/quote] You mean, slowly remove our 2nd Amendment rights, while criminals still have easy access to firearms? [quote]You can't argue against a system that very plainly works.[/quote] Watch me.

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  • I corrected myself immediately, but you were fast, lol. Stricter gun laws [i]also[/i] reduce the number of potential criminals who have them. Besides, law abiding citizens still can obtain firearms. Only a very small percentage of people actually want a straight prohibition, I certainly wouldn't if I was USian. No, the laws simply need to be more strict than they currently are. I actually know that a very tiny, miniscule number of citizens here in Canada are armed as they walk around town, but I could also find at least one gun (safely locked away) in tonnes of houses if I were to look. Yet somehow our gun crime rate is lower? Hmm. Interesting. It's almost as if it works. So yeah, I'll watch you, but you'll be beating your head against a wall.

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  • Edited by Steve of Steves: 8/23/2016 1:09:45 AM
    [quote]I corrected myself immediately, but you were fast, lol.[/quote] [quote]Stricter gun laws [i]also[/i] reduce the number of potential criminals who have them.[/quote] [i]Potential[/i] criminals. Not [i]convicted[/i] criminals. A potential criminal should not have their constitutional rights revoked. [quote]Besides, law abiding citizens still can obtain firearms. Only a very small percentage of people actually want a straight prohibition, I certainly wouldn't if I was USian. No, the laws simply need to be more strict than they currently are.[/quote] Heavily restricted firearms. Boring as -blam!-. [quote]I actually know that a very tiny, miniscule number of citizens here in Canada are armed as they walk around town, but I could also find at least one gun (safely locked away) in tonnes of houses if I were to look.[/quote] Canada might not have as big an issue with people shooting each other, but you sure do have quite the issue shooting yourselves. Your gun-related suicides are ridiculous. Maybe you should ban guns, save lives. [quote]Yet somehow our gun crime rate is lower? Hmm. Interesting. It's almost as if it works.[/quote] You also have a significantly lower population than the US. We also have more minorities. [quote]So yeah, I'll watch you, but you'll be beating your head against a wall.[/quote] Don't mind me, I'm just going out for a late-night session at the local shooting range. 'Murica.

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