As a PvE-er, I'd say that they're completely overshadowed by voidwalkers. Why have fist of havoc when you could have a ranged fist of havoc, which is safer. [i]*proceeds to take self damage from nova bomb*[/i] Okay, fair point. But voidwalkers also have the energy drain build. What do strikers have for PvE? Nothing but a good time with the Peregrine Greaves.